[Callers] Advice about "gypsy"

[Lindsay Morris via Callers]

I don't think of it as a derogatory term.


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Lindsay Morris
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On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Martha Wild via Callers <
callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> I can see from this discussion that there is definitely merit in giving
> this move a different name, though I had never thought of it as a
> derogatory term before. I rather like the idea suggested in a previous post
> of "eddy" because it is short and to the point and sounds different from
> other calls. "Walk all around your neighbor/partner" is fine for a
> walkthrough and as a description, but not very good for a quick reminder
> when you'd rather be calling a lot less.
>
> Another move that one would have to rename is the "gypsy star". I have
> personally always called the move "gypsy star" as "star wrong" - mostly
> because if I say "gypsy star" there is always at least one couple in the
> crowd that starts to gypsy and swing (eddy and swing?) instead of doing the
> star. "Star wrong" is also short and to the point and emphasizes the oddity
> of the star - two people backing up and two going forward. It seems to get
> the job done.
>
> Martha
>
>
> On Oct 24, 2015, at 1:42 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers wrote:
>
> In square dance, the call "walk all around your left hand lady" is very
> close to a right shoulder gypsy, and "See Saw is a left shoulder walk
> around.  A left shoulder Dosido is no longer called a See Saw, but a Left
> Dosido.
> Walk all around your nieghbor or partner, and see saw your neighbor or
> partner, may be able to replace the gypsy without generating any new terms.
> Rich
> Stafford, CT
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Richard Hart via Callers <
> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> I always describe a gypsy as being just like a dos à dos, but face to
>> face, instead of back to back.
>>
>> As that is the case, why not use French again. As "dos à dos" means
>> back to back, why not use "face à face" which means face to face?
>> Pronunciation would probably be difficult for those who don't speak
>> French, so it would probably become "facey-face" for many.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Don Veino via Callers
>> <callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>> > Before I respond directly, I ask that all of us posting what I expect
>> to be
>> > many replies to trim post quotes to just the pertinent bits
>> (particularly
>> > those reading the "digest" version).
>> >
>> ....
>> > Curiously enough, I'd raised this naming issue with a group of callers
>> (and
>> > dancers glommed on) at a house party recently. An area caller had tried
>> > rebranding the Gypsy as an Orbit, which this group rejected due to the
>> > existing usage & meaning for that term. One participant was of Romani
>> > heritage and expressed pride at the existing term and satisfaction at it
>> > being used for such a nice dance move and would feel loss were it to be
>> > renamed. I don't mention this to make excuses for anything that might
>> offend
>> > but rather to show that there are many possible perspectives. I'd since
>> > thought of other possible names and came up with these:
>> >
>> > Swirl - gentlest, unfortunately similar to "twirl" in sound
>> > Cyclone - too "violent", encouraging abandon?
>> > Vortex - distinct in sound, 2 syllables and short when spelled out.
>> >
>> > Sorry you find yourself in this situation. We know your actual intent
>> was to
>> > bring happiness, not offend.
>> >
>> > -Don
>> >
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