[Callers] Jets / rubies genderfree terms redux: gems?

[Ron Blechner via Callers]

Care to branch off non-jet/ruby terms to a new email please?
On May 29, 2015 2:45 PM, "Amy Wimmer via Callers" <
callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> I kinda like suns and moons better than lots of the other alternatives,
> for the same reasons Susan lists. Also, there's Sun Dance and Moon Dance,
> by Robert Cromartie: gents swing in Sun Dance and ladies swing in Moon
> Dance. A precedence, perhaps?
>
> -Amy
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> On May 29, 2015, at 8:00 AM, susanelberger via Callers <
> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> I have used suns and moons for years, and prefer them because they have
> one syllable each, sound completely different from each other, and are easy
> for the dancers to remember.  I have never had any issue arise about gender
> bias from them.  The conversation about which gems to use does seem a bit
> too overthought to me.
>
> Susan Elberger
> Lowell, Massachusetts
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>  *From:* Delia Clark via Callers <callers at lists.sharedweight.net>
> *To:* "<callers at lists.sharedweight.net>" <callers at lists.sharedweight.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2015 6:52 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Callers] Jets / rubies genderfree terms redux: gems?
>
> Okay, this conversation, plus the lunch table at the Puttin’ On the Dance
> Conference in Ottawa are FINALLY getting me to give up clinging to moons
> and stars (the only non-gender term I’ve ever used, which I have liked with
> families and have found works well, but which I understand is too gender-y
> to be acceptable as the solution we’re looking for - dang!). I am herewith
> committing to trying out Jets and Rubies next weekend at a dance I’m
> calling for a wedding of two women. Will report back.
>
>
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> On May 29, 2015, at 1:56 AM, P. Campbell via Callers <
> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> I like jets & rubies (and have used the terms) for a number of reasons.
> (Don't like gems for same reason about confusion).
>
> In a weird way, it's close enough to "lefts & rights" for me to have no
> trouble remembering who's who (with rubies starting with "r"), and,
> (apologies to those who might be offended), because it fits the same
> syllables for me as "gents & ladies" (which I use for historical dance) or
> "men & women".
>
> For some reason I just can't get a feel for larks & ravens (I have an idea
> of why but not worth sharing), and I'm not at all comfortable using bands &
> bares.
>
> For me, it's whatever will be the easiest for me to remember which side is
> which, and if my brain is wired to think of "jets" (black color) as more
> masculine and "rubies" (red color) as more feminine (so easier for me to
> link them to left & right), that's my mental visual process. (I tried
> apples & oranges once with a group of kids - it was terrible because I
> couldn't remember which was which side - I have to have some frame of
> reference).
>
> I think one of the reasons I have trouble with larks & ravens is because
> of having learned a foreign language that has a gender for nouns, and I
> want to make larks the right side and ravens the left, but then the
> syllable structure doesn't work for me.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Patricia
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>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 28, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Alan Winston via Callers <
> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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> On 5/28/15 12:30 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers wrote:
>
> For those interested in gender free contra dance terms:
> 1. Do you like or dislike jets / rubies ?
>
>
> Like. (I'm responding on personal preference alone; I'm aware of some
> objections to this, which I don't personally share.)
>
>  2. How would gems / rubies compare?
>
>
> Less good, because the soft "ms" would make the call less clear.  Also,
> rubies _are_ gems, so this is confusing.
>
> -- Alan
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