[Callers] Contra- roll differences?

[Don Veino via Callers]

I have to respectively disagree here.

In my experience, a "roll away" (RA) call has been conflated with a "roll
away with a half sashay" (RAHS) for many dancers (and callers) - but the
moves are distinct and can have choreographic significance. What I think
has happened is that callers are using abbreviated calls of something like
"roll" for the RAHS situation (which is more common) and that has colored
the interpretation.

In my understanding, the two calls are like this (the "|" symbol denoting
the boundary between adjacent hands-four):

"Gents Roll (Away) the Ladies" (Ladies only change position):

Starting position G0 L1|G1 L2|G2 L3
Ending position G0 L2|G1 L3|G2 L4

"Gents Roll (Away) the Ladies with a Half Sashay" (Ladies and Gents swap
position):

Starting position G0 L1|G1 L2|G2 L3
Ending position L1 G0|L2 G1|L3 G2

Of course, this can be also done in other configurations like circles and
boxes.

I ran into this a short while ago while calling a new (to me) dance and
having the walk-through fail. I knew the dance was right and my instruction
was correct. Rather than try to figure it out on the fly I bailed to a
fall-back dance. As I video most of my gigs, I was able to go back to that
and see what happened.

In this instance the difference between the calls was very significant. I
called a RA but the dancers (mostly) did a RAHS. This was in a box
configuration, meaning the dancer pairing became opposite to what was
intended. The next time I call this dance I will be sure to say "Roll Away
BUT NO Half Sashay, Gents stay put".

-Don

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Tom Hinds via Callers <
callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> I don't think there is a difference.
>
>
> On Aug 21, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Claire Takemori via Callers wrote:
>
> In Contra dancing, what is the difference between "Roll your ___
>> Across/along"  and "Roll away with a half sashay"?
>>
>> What are your favorite words to teach this move?
>>
>> thanks!!
>> claire takemori (Bay Area, CA)
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