Can I jump in?  If I were to write for a standard MWSD singing call, I would make sure that it had 64 beats per verse. There would be an intro, 2 verses for heads, middle break, two verses for sides and a closer. That equals 7 X 64 = 448 beats plus 16 beat start and 16 beat wrap and that equals 480 total beats divided by 128 beats/minute = 3 min and 45 seconds. Remember, MWSD use recorded music. Here is my thoughts for the dance using seven verses:Music:_    _     _    _        _    _    _    __    _     _    _        Heads Sq Thru _    _     _    _        Hds Star R with sides_    _     _    _        Hds Star L in Center_    _     _    _        Pass Thru, Uturn Back_    _     _    _        _    _    DoSaDo _    _    _    _        _    _    Swing New Partner_    _    _    _        _    _    Promenade_    _    _    _        _    _    _    __    _    _    _        _    _     repeat for heads again and twice for the sides.  The only problem would be the square thru. The sides need to step back one step to allow the four shoulders to get between them, but they don't remember to step forward to close the gap, making the square too big. NOW to add flavor to the dance on beats 63 & 64 say Number one lady out and form two stars one like Venus and one like Mars, now the ladies in and the men out change those two stars round about and now the ladies out once again and the men in and this time pickup your honey with an arm around in a star promenade. Now the men back out once and a half putting the ladies in the middle with a R Hd star promenade. Now spread the star way out wide and the girls duck under the men's right side to a left allemande, R & L Grand and Promenade home.  Slide this after the verses for heads and one verse for sides and you should have something for a dance if you first work it for one square without other people around and then have them as your slow motion demo square. Otto WartemanTrinity, Teaxs                                               From: "Tom Hinds twhinds(a)earthlink.net [trad-dance-callers]" <trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com> To: trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 8:07 AM Subject: [trad-dance-callers] Bouncing square ideas   Rich's dance inspired this: A1. Heads forward and back. Dosido opp. A2. Swing opposit, face sides, circle left B1. Same 4 star right,  heads star left B2. Bal.  C, box, dosido, pull by C1. Do paso (partner left, corner right, partner left) C2. 4 ladies chain ........ The one thing I don't like is the dosido in the B2.  It's there for timing.  It could be taken out is you wanted a more patter square feel. The timing is easy in the first half and a bit tighter in the second.  There isn't much partner interaction so if I ever try this I'll use a break that includes a P swing. ______________________________ ____________________________ 1a. Question about a square     Posted by: "Rich Sbardella" richsbardella(a)gmail.com     Date: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:55 am ((PDT)) Here is a square with MWSD roots.  I am wondering if is too much for an experienced contra crowd?  Is there a similar square in the trad circles? Hds DSD and face sides (8) Star R with the sides (8) Hds to Center Star L (8) With same outside two R&L Thru (6) Rollaway with Half Sashay (4) Box Gnat (4) Pull By (2) Allemande Left (4) New Partner Swg (4) Promenade (16) Any thoughts? 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Another bounce -- or maybe a ricochet Here's a figure I've used with my "Wrinkle in time" dance in NJ. I think of it as the "Tilt-A-Whirl" dance, and I have a modern urban contra variation. A1 Heads (sides) fwd and back; h/s promenade halfway around the outside A2 H/S meet couple on the right (ie. cpl 1 and couple 4; couple 3 and couple 2) join hands and circle left B1 Turn your circles and go around them, ride the tilt a whirl (two circles of four continue circling left while going around the other group of four moving counterclockwise) B2 Keep that circle turning then head back home and swing with your own I call this using the "My Little Girl" music by Von Tilzer (Take Me Out to the Ballgame composer) I'll write out the lyrics some time -- I'm sort of improvising it now -- cross between patter and singing square. With contra dancers, it's (in the B1) circle and swing your corner -- then the tilt-a whirl (bouquet waltz; pokey eight) and end up home swinging with . . . "my little girl". That actually smooths out the "go home and swing partner" with gents leading ladies nicely back to home. Just sharing. Ridge -- Ridge Kennedy [Exit 145] When you stumble, make it part of the dance. - Anonymous And we should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once. And we should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh. - Friedrich Nietzsche

Tom said: out? It looks like you are including more action in the second version than in the first. Or maybe I'm missing something. The corner swing ends at the end of A2. Contra dancers are accustomed to ending swings on the end of the musical phrase, so it works out ok. That puts the gent behind his partner lady during the bouquet waltz and you end up with a nicer, smoother transition into the swing back at home. Promenade half and lead right is more like 8 or 10. So the circle and swing end up pretty well phrased. Yes, that sums it up. For a dance party crowd especially -- no corner swing, that's how it works. Folks are doing elbow swings and the timing is pretty ragged, so you allow lots of time for the bouquet waltz and get them home and swinging and then, since the next figure is a fwd and back to start things off again, there is still more recovery time. As noted, it works well with Tucker's Waltz. I'll try to write out the lyric/patter I've been using this week. It would be good for me to get that settled down. I've been faking it and that is not a good thing to do. R