4 Sep
2017
4 Sep
'17
7:14 a.m.
Important note: This is NOT about whether or not modern callers should use the term.
Please don't raise that question in response to this note. This is a historical
analysis of the gypsy.
If you are interested please look at http://contrafusion.co.uk/Gypsy.html
http://contrafusion.co.uk/Gypsy.html where you will find all these subjects covered:
Gypsy - Whole Gip - Walk Around: The Move & The Name
References & Definitions Through the Ages
Gypsy: The Name
Warning
Backs & Faces
Not Turning Your Faces
Sharp's Whole Gips
The Solo Gypsy
Interlocking Gypsies or Double Gyp
Conclusion
Note on Etymology
Other Sources
Appendix 1: Walk Around the Corner
Appendix 2: Back-Circles
Thanks to all the people who provided information and insights.
Please let me know if you have anything that will help me to improve this page.
Thanks.
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
5 Sep
5 Sep
7:02 a.m.
New subject: last waltz
Here in Charlottesville there's this concern with the governing board
that the last (and perhaps) middle waltz is a major cause of
apprehension for the beginning dancers. The concern is that they
might feel left out during the waltz.
In order to deal with this the board has decided this:
Callers should ask the band to play a last waltz BUT should not
announce it as such. To announce the last waltz as a last waltz is
to make the beginners feel left out. If you don't announce it then
everything is fine.
Has anything like this come up in your dance community? I am trying
to have an open mind.
Tom
11:01 a.m.
New subject: last waltz
How about running Waltz 101? I did this at a Civil War dance workshop a couple weeks ago,
took three minutes.
--Karen D.
11:23 a.m.
New subject: last waltz
I care very deeply about giving beginners a positive experience, but this
seems over-the-top (I was going to say "silly" but that sounds too
judgemental.)
Have there been complaints?
Are experienced dancers unwilling to approach a beginner and say "Would you
like me to teach you to waltz? It's easy." This happens all the time at
our dances.
Maybe you could have a 5 minute "Your First Waltz" workshop before the half
time waltz. (Really five minutes should get them walking around the room
in 3/4 time and having fun doing it.)
Dale
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:01 AM, karendunnam(a)gmail.com [trad-dance-callers]
<trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com> wrote:
How about running Waltz 101? I did this at a Civil War dance workshop a
couple weeks ago, took three minutes.
--Karen D.
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11:38 a.m.
New subject: last waltz
Oh, go ahead and say it. Management says:
Callers should ask the band to play a last waltz BUT should not
announce it as such. To announce the last waltz as a
last waltz is
to make the beginners feel left out. If you don't announce it then
everything is fine.
I'll say it out loud. That's silly.
Per Karen's note, if you have lots of newcomers who don't know how to
waltz, a mini-lesson at the break would be nice.
Has anything like this come up in your dance
community? I am trying
to have an open mind.
Nope. this is a brand new matter of (in my opinion -- unnecessary) concern.
Ridge
When you stumble, make it part of the dance.
12:27 p.m.
New subject: last waltz
I really like the idea of a mini-Waltz Workshop before the break. It might even be
helpful to experienced Contra dancers who are uncomfortable with Waltzing. But I think
the idea of not mentioning that it is the last waltz is over-thinking the issue.
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I'll say it out loud. That's silly.
Per Karen's note, if you have lots of newcomers who don't know how to waltz, a
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Nope. this is a brand new matter of (in my opinion -- unnecessary) concern.
Ridge
When you stumble, make it part of the dance.
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6 Sep
7:37 a.m.
New subject: last waltz
Thank you all for your input. Your responses are unbelievable
helpful on a number of levels.
On Sep 5, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Ann Fallon aefallon(a)verizon.net [trad-
dance-callers] wrote:
I really like the idea of a mini-Waltz Workshop before the break.
It might even be helpful to experienced Contra dancers who are
uncomfortable with Waltzing. But I think the idea of not
mentioning that it is the last waltz is over-thinking the issue.
Sent from AOL Mobile Ma
-----Original Message-----
From: Ridge Kennedy srk3nn3dy(a)gmail.com [trad-dance-callers] <trad-
dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com>
To: Traditional American Dance Callers List <trad-dance-
callers(a)yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Sep 5, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [trad-dance-callers] last waltz
Oh, go ahead and say it. Management says:
Callers should ask the band to play a last waltz BUT should not
announce it as such. To announce the last waltz as a last waltz is
to make the beginners feel left out. If you don't announce it then
everything is fine.
I'll say it out loud. That's silly.
Per Karen's note, if you have lots of newcomers who don't know how
to waltz, a mini-lesson at the break would be nice.
Has anything like this come up in your dance community? I am trying
to have an open mind.
Nope. this is a brand new matter of (in my opinion -- unnecessary)
concern.
Ridge
When you stumble, make it part of the dance.
12:32 a.m.
New subject: last waltz
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Tom Hinds twhinds(a)earthlink.net
[trad-dance-callers] <trad-dance-callers(a)yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Here in Charlottesville there's this concern with
the governing board
that the last (and perhaps) middle waltz is a major cause of
apprehension for the beginning dancers. The concern is that they
might feel left out during the waltz.
In order to deal with this the board has decided this:
Callers should ask the band to play a last waltz BUT should not
announce it as such. To announce the last waltz as a last waltz is
to make the beginners feel left out. If you don't announce it then
everything is fine.
Has anything like this come up in your dance community? I am trying
to have an open mind.
You wouldn't be wrong to think they've lost their minds.
Suppose that at my contra dance, I start a practice of doing the Bohemian
National Polka right after the break. You are new here and wonder
quizzically what kind of dance is happening, because it sure isn't contra.
Perhaps you have a conversation with the dance manager who greeted you at
the door earlier this evening:
You: "What--what's happening?"
They: "Oh, it's the Bohemian National Polka."
You, not understanding any of the words they just said: "I didn't
understand any of the words you just said, but why didn't anyone tell us?"
They, grinning: "We told the caller not to announce it so you would feel
more welcome here!"
You: "..."
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