That's not true, Rich - I usually let the band get two to four phrases into the tune before beginning any call, give the dancers the melody.

Problem comes on dances like My Little Girl which begin with the figure ( 4 figures 4 breaks).  Then I ask the band to play the last
phrase of the melody as an intro.  (Of course everybody knows this dance)

Bob Livingston
Middletownm CT



From: "Rich Sbardella richsbardella@gmail.com [trad-dance-callers]"
To: trad-dance-callers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [trad-dance-callers] Ever seen dancers start a square on auto-pilot?

 
Skipping the four potatoes and using B2 as an intro works well, especially with singing squares.
Rich
Stafford, CT USA

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Geoff Cubitt geofrey.cubitt@ntlworld.com [trad-dance-callers] <trad-dance-callers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
As Collin, Mo and Hugh have said if something like this happens its ultimately the callers fault. Theres been a communication breakdown somewhere.
Like Colin, I rarely walk through a break, preferring the spontaneity and freedom this gives us as callers.
I try to remember before the music starts, to tell the dancers to wait for the call. Mostly I don't call for the first 8 bars or so to give the dancers time to adjust to the tempo of the music.
If I see dancers predicting a call by jumping ahead of the music, I will change the call. Often achieving a smile from the offenders.

Geoff Cubitt


On 31/01/16 14:20, Colin Hume colin@colinhume.com [trad-dance-callers] wrote:
 
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 12:20:22 +0000, Hugh Stewart
hugh.stewart.cambridge@gmail.com [trad-dance-callers] wrote:
> Yes. Often enough that I can give two cases that tend to induce
> it.
>
> One is where the caller lets the music start without saying
> anything (typically because he is going to wait four bars and then
> call honour partners, honour corners)
>
> The other is where the caller has walked a figure, but not a break,
> and then starts with a break as the dancers confidently launch into
> the figure.

I agree with Hugh - and with Mo who said it's ultimately the caller's
fault. I don't usually walk through breaks, but having walked through
the figure (usually for heads and then sides) and got them back to
their original partners I say "And it starts with a break - which
bears no resemblance to any of that". I still occasionally get people
leaping into the figure as soon as the music starts, in which case I
say "Wait a minute - I haven't said anything yet".

And I occasionally get people going ahead of the call for the figure -
usually because it's unphrased and I've slowed down to help the square
at the bottom of the hall while the square at the top is forging
ahead. In that case I threaten to change the figure!

Colin Hume

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