Designating who does what in the
figure: "????? Chain" ...
This is a subject that
probably deserves its own thread - so
I'll start it.
The immediate spur to discuss this arises from the message
quoted farther below.
But I've been ruminating about
the issue for 30+ years ...
30+ years ago, in
Chicago, the figure "people's chain" was used
occasionally. It
was accepted as dancing the same action as
"ladies chain", but
from a proper set (all the gents on one
side, all the ladies on
the other). It was used [blasphemously,
thought some] with some
of the Chestnuts in place of "proper-set
R&L thru," to add
a bit of spice.
About 30 years ago, I attended a
dance weekend - in Kentucky, I
think, (maybe Camp Levi
Jackson?) - at which we had the unusual
(for dance camps)
situation of more men than women on the dance
floor. (In fact,
having an all-guy square evened things up
pretty nicely.)
It's safe to say that among all the above dancers,
"gents chain"
was already accepted as the gents doing a mirror
image of the
"ladies chain," starting from the lady's left.
At the dance camp, Gene Hubert test-drove a new
contra (can't
remember the name, unfortunately - sorry) in
which the gents
were to the right of their partners on the
sides of the set -
and Gene wanted the gents to chain across.
In the walk-through,
Gene explained that he would call, "gents
do a ladies chain." A
perfectly good solution for the moment.
But to me, it seemed a
bit lacking for the long-haul.
Gene and I had a discussion that evening about how
this
situation might be handled more generally. I suggested
that we
might, in this situation, say, "gents do a right-hand
chain."
Or, even better, just say, "chain by the right" or
"right-hand
chain" ... when it occurred to me that, if it
weren't for the
'pesky problem' of tradition, "right-hand
chain" and "left-hand
chain" could handle all circumstances.
And I opined that, just
perhaps, we might even consider
changing the traditional names
of the figures this way to
accommodate any other situations that
might (and probably
would) arise in the future. Gene took the
side of the
traditional skeptic in the discussion, incompletely
convinced
of the idea's usefulness.
So - I'm here to pose
the same question again: Might we,
perhaps, consider changing
the names of these figures to
"right-hand chain" and "left-hand
chain? Or at least, begin
using these names side-by-side with
the traditional names?
Among other things, it accommodates
something that never crossed
my mind until a few years ago:
gender neutrality.
It would also make for a very
interesting, entangling addition
to the old square, "The
Route".
Roger Diggle
On 3/20/17 at 10:27 PM, trad-dance-callers@yahoogroups.com
(Michael Barraclough michael@michaelbarraclough.com
[trad-dance-callers]) wrote:
>On
Monday, March 20, 2017 9:46:43 PM MST Dale wrote:
>>The
move at the beginning of B2 is usually called a "men's
>>chain" -- at least here in Saint Louis. It's not a common
>>move, but it's not unheard of.
>
>I deliberately didn't call it a "men's chain", which it of
>course is :) because I see that term used ambiguously as to
>whether the chainee starts on the left or on the right of the
>chainer; which hands the chainees take to start the chain;
and
>also who backs up in the courtesy turn.
>
>Michael Barraclough
>www.michaelbarraclough.com
>
>
>
I first discussed it about 30
years ago with Gene Hubert -