27 Apr
2016
27 Apr
'16
2:11 a.m.
Reading this, it's hard for me to tell what's the issue. Are you worried
that a general election isn't a good way to determine qualifications for
treasurer? That the existing treasurer will lose and feel hurt? That the
new person is annoying?
On 26 Apr 2016 9:52 p.m., "Jeff Raymond via Organizers" <
organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I think that Joe's point is that the position open
is that of treasurer.
I've been in membership organizations that had a year wait. But in
community groups things are moire inclusive but anyone claiming finance
creds has got to have a track record.
On Apr 26, 2016 7:00 PM, "Claire Baffaut via Organizers" <
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Joe,
Unless I am missing something, your situation is not something to avoid.
It is something to be grateful for. You must be doing something right to
have people volunteer for this position without twisting any arm. The
treasurer position is very important, yet it requires diligence and
understanding of what is required. The work is behind the scene and has few
rewards.
I have heard (and seen) of more organizations going under because of
books being cooked than I ever thought was possible. It happens more often
than we would want too, sometimes because the person is in denial of what
the numbers are saying, sometimes because the situation is too tempting to
resist.
The best prevention is to have several pairs of eyes on the books and
have frequent changes of treasurers so that no one is too comfortable. It
seems that you are in an ideal situation for either one of those. You could
ask that person to review the books, or you could ask her to take over the
position, or you could ask her to shadow the current treasurer and learn
the ways it is done in your organization before she moves into the
position. What I am saying is that there are many ways for you to use the
talent in a way that benefits your organization, in the short and long run.
Claire (Columbia, MO)
On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 5:45 PM, David Kirchner via Organizers <
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I guess I don't see the problem here. Someone
wants to volunteer to help
the organization. Yay!
So the person hasn't danced much. So what? There are other people who do
dance on the board, right? It's not like this person is going to initiate
something that would hurt the dance and manage to carry the day against a
bunch of dancing board members who would know better.
If the problem is that this person would be bad for the board for other
reasons (unrelated to the lack of dance experience), then you should
address that the same way you would address it if a regular dancer who
wouldn't be a good choice asked to join the board.
David
On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Jeff Raymond via Organizers <
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It is amazing how helpful new converts I mean
dancers are and to ignore
qualified personnel because they are not yet fully vetted could mean
missing out on some good talent.
Qualifications and references are in order.
IMHO
Be well, Jeff
On Apr 26, 2016 5:16 PM, "via Organizers" <
organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> The situation is unclear to me. Is this person unqualified in some way?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>
> > On Apr 26, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Joe Kwiatkowski via Organizers <
> organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >
> > It's annual election time, and a new dancer is answering the call to
> help the organization.
> >
> > The individual in question is someone known to a Board member and
> has "has served with other groups as funds manager/ treasurer type
> positions". Using her talents, she has volunteered to lend them to the
> organization as Treasurer.
> >
> > This has sparked a battle among (1) we need to amend the by-laws so
> this can't happen, (2) we need to mentor new people into leadership, (3) we
> need to just vote at the general election and see what happens.
> >
> > A supporter of (1) claims that "that's what other clubs do".
> >
> > So without asking for the entire contra nation to take sides, let me
> ask you organizers: what would your club do/what does your club do to
> contend with or avoid situations such as this?
> >
> > Joe Kwiatkowski
> >
> >
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