Good discussion.

 

The Bloomington, IN contra dance meets weekly. Our instructions to callers say:

“Role Terms.  Callers may choose what role terms to use.  Whatever terms you use, please emphasize that these are roles that any dancer is welcome to choose.  Try to refrain from using the words “man,” “woman,” “he,” “she” or other words that suggest a gender of the dancers.”

 

In practice, our local callers all use larks & robins with occasional positional calling. At our once a month open mic night calling is where we might get a person or two who calls a dance using gents/ladies. It is helpful to learn that posting this information on our website might be a good practice. I will bring it up to the board, and we might also want to revisit whether we want to specifically state that most callers at our dance use the terms larks & robins. http://bloomingtoncontra.org/

 

In the list below, there is a question about whether the Cincinnati, OH dance is running. It is meeting weekly: http://cincinnaticontradance.org/   https://www.facebook.com/groups/2185335378145105

Of course, that is their original dance group, and not the Cincinnati gender-free contra dance group which is referenced in the list. The Cincinnati gender-free group had been running for about 16 months before Covid hit. To my knowledge, that gender-free dance group is not currently holding dances.

 

Mary Jean Regoli

Bloomington, IN

 

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From: Joe Harrington via Organizers
Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2023 11:16 PM
To: A list for dance organizers
Subject: [Organizers] Re: Current use of terms

 

Orlando, FL

Currently larks+robins for the dances I call, which has been all of them so far, but we're moving to hiring callers, as our finances allow.  Then it will be caller's choice, so long as it's gender-neutral.

 

If we said "loons" rather than "larks", I'd be happier, as "larks" starts like "ladies".  But, I think that ship has sailed.

 

--jh--

 

 

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 10:15 PM Sandy Seiler via Organizers <organizers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

Lawrence Barn Dance Association has also opted for "Caller's Choice".  Personally (not speaking for LBDA) I don't especially like the terms Larks and Robins and am hoping something better comes along.  We don't have a statement on our website, but I plan to work on that. 

 

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:54 PM Kelly Tabor via Organizers <organizers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

Portland, OR 2/4/5th Saturdays are Larks and Robins. It's on the newcomer page and I'll get it added to the main contra page.

 

Portland's 1/3rd Saturdays don't have a policy but have consistently been Larks and Robins this year

 

Portland's Joyride dance has no policy but does announce terms ahead of the dance. 

 

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 5:38 PM Jerome Grisanti via Organizers <organizers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

Both Louisville Kentucky and Lexington Kentucky are opting for "caller's choice." I believe Berea Kentucky is doing the same. Callers have used gents/ladies, larks/robins and positional. 

 

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 7:46 PM Peter Simonyi via Organizers <organizers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

There are only 49 dances on Jeff's list, so I went to each website and
took a quick look around.

Of the dances that are still clearly running and list the terms they
use on their website (somewhere I could find it), the overwhelming
majority use Larks+Robins.  The only other terms with any
representation are Larks+Ravens and one mention of positional calling.

"Not mentioned" means they don't say what role terms are used in a
place I could find (even if they say it's gender-free etc -- some don't
even say that much).

"Not running?" means it appears the series is no longer putting on
dances, or still on hiatus from the pandemic.  If they are holding
dances, the website is out of date.

This of course misses dances that are not in or up to date on Jeff's
list.


Amherst MA: http://amherstcontra.org
    Not mentioned (‘what is contra’ page mentions gents+ladies but it
seems to be a general description not specific to this dance)

Amherst MA:
https://engage.hampshire.edu/organization/contradancecollective
    Not running?

Arden DE: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ardencontra/
    "Arden uses gender-free role terms (usually larks and robins, and
sometimes positional calling.)"

Belfast ME: http://www.belfastflyingshoes.org/
    Larks+Robins

Berkeley CA: http://www.bacds.org/series/contra/berkeley_wed/
    Larks+Robins

Blacksburg VA: https://gobblerconnect.vt.edu/organization/contrafolk
    Private site

Blacksburg VA: https://www.facebook.com/ContraFolkVT/
    Not running? Was Larks+Ravens

Brooklyn NY: http://www.brooklyncontra.org/
    Not mentioned

Cambridge MA: http://www.bidadance.org/
    Larks+Robins

Carrboro NC: http://firstsaturdaycontra.com/
    “callers will use the terms Larks and Ravens (or Robins)”

Charlottesville VA: https://www.facebook.com/groups/984316375582303/
    Larks+Robins

Chicago IL: https://www.facebook.com/QueerContraChicago/
    Larks+Robins?  Their "about" description mentions both Ravens and
Robins, so probably this is an editing oversight:
    “Instead of gender roles, dancers choose whether to dance the Lark
role or the Raven role.  One role extends their Left arm for the
ballroom swing and stands on the Left at the end of it (it's the Lark!)
The Robin extends their Right arm for that swing and ends it standing
on the Right.”

Cincinnati OH: https://www.facebook.com/GFCinci/
    Not running?

Concord MA: http://mondaycontras.com/
    Larks+Robins

Concord MA: http://www.neffa.org/Thurs.html
    Larks+Robins

Denver CO: http://www.cfootmad.org
    Not mentioned

Edinburgh Scotland: https://www.facebook.com/EdinburghContra/
    Larks+Robins

Glen Echo MD: https://www.facebook.com/ContraSonic/
    Not running?

Halifax Canada: https://www.facebook.com/HalifaxContraDances/
    Larks+Ravens
    They seem to have a new website too: https://www.halifaxcontra.ca/

Hayward CA: https://sfbaycontra.org/
    Not mentioned

Jamaica Plain MA: http://www.lcfd.org/jp/
    Larks+Robins

Los Angeles CA: http://www.caldancecoop.org/california-twirl/
    Not mentioned

Milwaukee WI: https://www.mkecontra.org/
    Not mentioned

Minneapolis MN: https://www.facebook.com/groups/twincitiesqueercontra
    Larks+Robins

Monterey CA: http://montereycontradance.org
    Not mentioned

Montpelier VT: http://capitalcitygrange.org/dancing/contradancing/
    Not mentioned

Montreal Canada: http://www.contramontreal.org/
    Larks+Robins

New York NY: http://cdny.org/
    Larks+Robins (in the caller info page)

New York NY: http://www.villagecontra.org
    Not running? (Was Larks+Robins)

Northampton MA: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1311451995547490/
    Larks+Robins

Oakland CA: http://www.queercontradance.org/circleleft.html
    Larks+Robins

Oberlin OH: https://www2.oberlin.edu/stuorg/contra/
    Not running? (Was Larks+Ravens 2017-2019)

Olympia WA: https://oly-wa.us/southbaygrange/contra.php
    Larks+Robins (but listed per dance as if it could change)

Orlando FL: https://contraknights.org/
    Not mentioned

Petaluma CA: http://www.nbcds.org/
    Not mentioned

Portland ME: http://portlandintowncontradance.com/
    Not running?

Portland ME: https://www.commonfloorcontra.dance/
    Larks+Robins

Portland OR: http://contraremix.com/
    Larks+Robins

Portland OR: https://portlandcountrydance.org/pdxcontra-info/
    Not mentioned

Providence RI: https://www.facebook.com/ProvidenceCommunityDance/
    Private site

Sacramento CA: http://www.sactocds.org/
    Not mentioned

San Jose CA: http://www.bacds.org/series/contra/san_jose/
    Not running? (Was Larks+Robins)

Santa Cruz CA: https://www.facebook.com/groups/contrasantacruz/
    "usually using gender neutral role terms (Larks / Robins)."

Seattle WA: http://seattledance.org/contra/emeraldcity
    Larks+Robins

Seattle WA: http://seattledance.org/contra/lakecity
    Larks+Robins

Stillwater OK: https://www.facebook.com/groups/acontraaffair/
    Not running?

Swarthmore PA: https://thepac.center/events/contra-dance-2023-02-14
    Not mentioned

Toronto Canada: http://www.tcdance.org/
    Larks+Robins

Warren RI: https://www.facebook.com/eastbaycontradance.net/
    Not running?  The Facebook page says it's "closed" and posting
seems to have been taken over by Worcester, a more gendered dance (“If
there is an excess of one gender, it is customary for women to dance
men's parts (and vice versa)”)



On Wed, 2023-03-08 at 17:32 -0500, Jeff Kaufman via Organizers wrote:
> On trycontra.com I have whether dances are gender free, but not more
> specific than that.
>
> The raw list
> is https://github.com/jeffkaufman/trycontra/blob/master/dances.json
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023, 4:50 PM Steve Pike via Organizers
> <organizers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> > Is there any Google doc or some such with a list of terms contra
> > dances are currently using? I recollect seeing something somewhere,
> > maybe a post...
> >
> > Milwaukee: positional calling, with an occasional Larks/Robins
> > caller
> >
> > Steve Pike
> > Milwaukee (formerly Madison), WI
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