20 Mar
2021
20 Mar
'21
1:59 p.m.
Without research, I would expect a publicly available hall at an event
open to the public would qualify as a public gathering.
Walker Sloan
sloan(a)medevelop.com
On 3/20/21 9:46, Ron Blechner via Organizers wrote:
It's my understanding that most dances are held in
non-public spaces,
and thus, not public gatherings. No?
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 7:10 PM Stephen Moore via Organizers
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Hello everyone,
Gads, worrying over dancing issues seems so long ago.
Re: photographs. I edit a small town monthly newspaper/journal in
western Massachusetts and so the laws around photography are pertinent.
It’s pretty simple as far as what is legal- Photography of people,
regardless of age, at a public gathering is permissible without
permission.
But as an ongoing event, you might wish to have a more considered
approach, especially if someone has raised it within your dance
community.
And by example, a school classroom setting is not a public
gathering. Common sense should prevail too.
Stephen Moore
Lenox Contra Dance
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On Mar 19, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Lisa Brown via
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Hi Jeff,
Also from our social contract:
Children
● Children are welcome; however, those under 18 must come with an
adult.
Lisa
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 1:01 PM Jeff Kaufman
<jeff(a)alum.swarthmore.edu <mailto:jeff@alum.swarthmore.edu>> wrote:
Hi Lisa,
How do you handle situations where someone is taking pictures
of the
whole crowd if you have minors dancing?
Do you not allow people under 18 to attend your dance without a
responsible adult?
Jeff
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 12:27 PM Lisa Brown
<lisa(a)cdrochester.org <mailto:lisa@cdrochester.org>> wrote:
Stephen Moore
P.O. Box 38
Monterey, MA 01245
413-528-4007
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We have a photography policy for minors and musicians. It's
part of
our social contract.
Photography, Videography, and Recording
● Permission of the responsible adult must be obtained
before publishing
photos or videos of minor children.
● Permission of the performers should be obtained
before
making videos or recordings.
Lisa - Country Dancers of Rochester
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 10:28 PM Jeff Kaufman via Organizers
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>
> BIDA has:
>
> "Photography: We don't have a photography policy, and it is
common for
> dancers to take pictures and post them on
social media." --
>https://www.bidadance.org/accessibility
<https://www.bidadance.org/accessibility>
>
> We talked a lot about ways in which we could potentially
make the
> dance better for people who don't want to
be photographed
or have
> their pictures shared, but we ended up
running into the
same problems
> Alan describes.
>
> If you have a place where people can trust that photos of
them will
> not appear on social media without them
having the option
to opt out,
> then there are people who can come to your
dance who couldn't
> otherwise. On the other hand, if you make some effort in this
> direction but it still happens, which is what will happen
unless you
> have quite strict enforcement (especially
with newcomers),
you aren't
> successfully making the dance more accessible
and you are
making the
> dance less enjoyable for dancers who like
sharing photos.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 10:19 PM Winston, Alan P. via
Organizers
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> >
> > BACDS started trying to address this 10 or so years ago
when we
wanted to put dance images in our publicity and
privacy concerns meant that we couldn't just use pictures. It
was very frustrating that while the Board was arguing about
this stuff pictures of our dances from random dancers were
turning up on FB with no concern for privacy. We eventually
concluded that if we were going to take publicity photos we'd
let people know beforehand, announce what dance in the evening
we were going to do it in, and let people sit down or leave
the room for that one dance.
> >
> > That's okay when you're in charge of the photographer.
> >
> > It turns out to be effectively impossible to really
prevent
photography without draconian measures like searches
at the door and confiscating all the cellphones.
> >
> > The people who don't want to be photographed range from
people who just have a preference to people for whom it's a
matter of survival - those who have fled violent abusers or
who are, say, in witness protection. You cannot guarantee
their safety and they need to understand that you can do at
most a best-effort attempt.
> >
> > Given that, it's useful to designate one line as photos
okay
and have signage at the desk about not photographing
outside of that line, but people will still miss or forget the
signage, so organizers have to keep an eye on it and
announcements have to be made, which may on any given night be
for the benefit of people who aren't there.
> >
> > I don't think we've tried giving people "no photos
please" badges. That might be effective in that people
reviewing images before sharing them will see a reminder in
the picture, but it's not likely to be useful for people who
livestream a minute of your dance.
> >
> > -- Alan
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Karey Bacon via Organizers
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> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 6:16 PM
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> > Subject: [Organizers] photography
policy?
> >
> > Hi all,
> > We in Philadelphia are using our Covid time to try to get
some
policies done.
> >
> > One thing that has come up is a photography/video
policy. Some
dancers do not want to appear in any photos or
videos.
> >
> > Some ideas we tossed about that have practical drawbacks:
> > -designate one line as always non-photo/video
> > -buttons or badges for those who do not want to be on camera
> >
> > Is this something your dance has grappled with? Anything
you've come up with that you're willing to share?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Karey Bacon
> > she/her/hers
> > 267-437-5641
> >
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