Mary,
Is the Buffalo dance gender free? The website tells callers to use gents and ladies. If
the dance is in fact gender free, then the website needs updating. If you are advertising
the dance as gender free but use gents and ladies, that would certainly not encourage me
to return if I were a new dancer.
On Mar 13, 2023, at 3:54 PM, Mary Collins via
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Watching this as we have the same issue. We are (I believe) the 2nd largest city in NYS
and have the most pitiful turnout.
I think you have some good ideas here.
One comment: we often or even always speak about our dance not only gender free, no
partner necessary to bring, but also as no lessons needed, each dance being taught and
"walked through". Then we advertise "the lesson" b4 the dance. If
words matter (and I think we agree they do) the this is a huge contradiction.
I say to people these sets of words & phrasing: easy, walking to music, Only 8 steps,
no need to bring partner but a friend is fun, dances are taught, practiced (stole from
country line dance & swing) and then they are prompted once the music starts. We offer
basic move instruction rather than lesson.
I don't really know if these changes help, hinder or have no effect. I only know that
not having a friend anchor for the first few dances would have resulted in my not coming
back. The lesson too. But that's just my perception.
We give out "get in free" cards and encourage ppl to share theirs with a
friend. I also encourage people who say "I told my friends...", to next dance
offer to pick them up or meet b4 and come together.
We also encourage experienced dancers to partner with new dancers.
I am anxious to hear other's ideas.
Mary "from Buffalo", not.
On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 12:49 PM Sandy Seiler via Organizers
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wrote:
Newbies are not returning my thoughts...
Why? not feeling welcome?, feeling intimidated/too hard? Coming late to lesson and being
lost/confused during dance? Lack of feeling of mastery/learning? Need follow up lesson
since we only dance 1x/month? One month is a long time to wait for another lesson. Not
enough younger dancers like themselves?
Ideas:
1. Use beginner friendly buttons
2. Ask experienced dancers to dance with beginners for first 2 dances at least. Board
members lead by example.
3. Encourage experienced dancers to come for the beginner lesson to welcome/socialize
with new dancers.
4. Have caller or one of us give out free passes (pass for next dance) at the lesson so
we don't have to remember to do it at the table. We gave out 15 free passes to new
dancers in Feb and did not get any to return in March. (March dance was on 2nd sat instead
of our normal 3rd sat and it's spring break. Feb attendance 61, March 38 (paid
dancers, not including 3 listeners). Also there was a local magazine article about LBDA
in February and we had our most experienced and popular contra dance band (Kaw Creek)
playing.
5. Our Lesson is at 7:00, Dance 7:30. Should we use start time 7:00 in advertising bc
experienced dancers will figure it out and adjust to coming at 7:30 more easily than new
people knowing they need to come at 7:00 for the lesson. New people attending and being
on time for 7:00 lesson is important for a smooth dance so do we need to advertise that
way? Want experienced dancers to be there to meet and socialize with them so they can be
better integrated into the community and not feel so awkward. I have suggested this to
our board before, but was told that would be manipulative toward experienced dancers who
would be upset that they came too early and wasted their time. That feels like a very
unwelcoming attitude, and I would like to encourage all our dancers to consider that 7:00
is our start time because beginners are important and we need to be there to greet them
and socialize.
6. Schedule a 1 hour lesson or series of lessons led by experienced callers Lisa and or
Jill and a couple new callers... before the dance? On a different day? Through Parks and
Rec this summer?
7. New dancers are far outnumbering experienced dancers. Need to do advanced dance to
pull back in some dancers who drifted away after the pandemic. Contact individually by
phone/email?
And then getting younger people to attend is a whole other but strongly related topic we
need to address more effectively. We are not getting enough young people at dances. It
appears to me that when a young person comes they often decide to not return because there
aren't enough people in their age group.
Please tell me if you like/encourage these ideas I have come up with so far and add
others.
Especially I want to know how to get new people to come on time for the lesson.
Is it ok to advertise dance for 7:00 even though first 30 minutes is lesson? It's
frustrating for our callers and then they don't get a full lesson which is not good
for anyone.
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