Yes, Don I was being a little tongue in cheek and I apologize for that. I
was in a bit of a rush when I wrote that. Here's a fuller response.
Mac is almost certainly correct in claiming that mask wearing is less risky
than no mask wearing with respect to community spread. But implicit in his
response is that whatever risk remains is an acceptable one. It certainly
is to him (and me) and probably everyone reading this. But one can imagine
people for whom this lower risk would still be unacceptable. Such people
might look at contra dancing as a selfish, recreational activity that
during a pandemic endangers the health of the wider community. They would
have a point. The only risk-free dance is no dance.
Now, fortunately, there are health organizations that provide guidance to
all of us on matters of public health. We don't have to set policies based
on the least or the most risk averse people in our community. We can look
to these organizations for guidance. They don't set their risk tolerance
thresholds at zero just like water departments don't set the acceptable
parts per million of e coli in the water supply at zero. A certain amount
of risk is acceptable (yay, we can all have a contra dance!). The premiere
such health organization in our country is the Centers for Disease Control.
In our dance community in Berkshire Count, MA, we decided to simply follow
CDC COVID-19 guidelines, not reinterpret them or add to them, just follow
them. Ever since our dance restarted last July, the CDC guidelines with
respect to mask wearing in indoor spaces is that everyone should be masked
if the community spread level of the virus is high (red). If it is low
(green) or medium (yellow), certain individuals should be masked (e.g., the
immunocompromised, those with a known recent COVID exposure, etc.) and
anyone who wishes to mask, certainly can, but the CDC does *not* explicitly
recommend that *everyone* masks. So, neither do we. If the community spread
level is high, we simply cancel the dance (which we've never actually had
to do).
We have followed the same guidance for COVID-19 vaccinations and boosters.
The CDC has made it very clear that the purpose of the COVID-19 vaccination
program is to prevent severe infections, not stop transmission, which makes
sense given how poorly the vaccines have done at stopping transmission. So
we don't exclude unvaccinated or partially vaccinated dancers from our
dance because, as organizers, we are only concerned about transmission at
our dance, not what health choices people might make for themselves.
- Jon Greene (Lenox contra dance organizer)
On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 11:16 AM Don Peabody <donpeabody(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Jon—
You may be using sarcasm, but I agree with what you’ve said.
Love to you all—
Don
On Apr 9, 2023, at 10:23 AM, Jon Greene via
Organizers <
organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Mac,
I guess none of us then should really be contra dancing at all because
dancing
surely creates more transmission risk than not dancing. And for a
recreational activity that, unlike earning a living, is not even a
necessity.
- Jon Greene
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 8, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Walker Sloan via Organizers <
organizers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>
> Becoming infected by Covid today is a lower risk to the individual than
at the
start of the pandemic.
>
> However, becoming infected by Covid is also an opportunity for the
Covid virus
to be transmitted to others, and to mutate.
>
> R0 is the number of people that an infected individual is likely to
infect.
>
> R0 was 5.4 in Dec 2022.
>
> XBB.1.5 is estimated to be 82% of all Covid cases today.
>
> 5.4 and 82% are not numbers influenced by communities or individuals
attitudes
towards risk. Only by community and individual behavior.
>
> People who assume increased risk for themselves are also assuming
increased
risk for 5.4 other people.
>
> Masks, vaxes, and emails mitigate risks.
>
> These data are from an article published by a reputable university
hospital
last month on Mar 17 2023. Scroll to the last page for R0.
>
>
https://www.ohsu.edu/sites/default/files/2023-03/Oregon-Hospital-Forecast-T…
Mac Sloan
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