love the dating analogy, dave!  it so describes the dynamic -- like you can't exactly explain why, but you just don't want to go on that second date.   

also "too true" re. your point on the reverse situation.  (indeed, many a performer has either ignored our entreaties or offered us gentle "vaguery"... and we just move on.)

:)
more grist for the mill!

chrissy f
belfast me


Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 08:40:25 -0400
CC: organizers@lists.sharedweight.net
Subject: Re: [Organizers] Saying "no"
From: organizers@lists.sharedweight.net

I was the booker for a dance for a bunch of years and saying no was one of the more challenging responsibilities that came with the role. It's hard because you are basically evaluating someone's creative effort, something they are presumably quite hopeful and invested in. 

When turning down a band or caller, I say be gentle and somewhat easy in your reply. It's like dating; the reasons one person may not want to go on a second date are rarely "reasons" so much as impressions or intuitions. 

The situation can be reversed as well--inquires to bands or callers to come play can go unresponded to, or met with "be in touch after the new year" type vaguery that eventually become clear they are trying to gently say no without being harsh, and frankly I think that works. 

To Don's point about burning bridges, I think you have a sense pretty quick if there's a promising spark there, even if it is early in a band's career, and if there is that spark, I say act on it.

Cheers,
Dave

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015, Donald Perley via Organizers <organizers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Of course, beware of burning bridges.. 10 years later they could be a
big draw name, or at least good enough, and the only one available
when your scheduled caller comes down with ebola.

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 6:24 AM, Jeff Kaufman via Organizers
<organizers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> When you're handling booking for bands or callers, there are generally some
> proper you don't want to book. When the reason is straightforward it's not
> too hard to communicate ("you need to get more experience; play some smaller
> dances and get back to me" or "on even days our series only books local
> callers, ago the dates you suggested don't work, but what about DATE?") but
> sometimes the reason is "we don't think you're very good, and you've been
> doing enough dances that we don't think booking you for ours will help you
> improve"? I'd like to just say "no" without getting into reasons, but
> everything I write sounds either too short and curt or overshary.
>
> How do other bookers handle this?
>
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