20 Mar
2021
20 Mar
'21
2:04 p.m.
I believe that public gatherings are any gatherings that welcome the public whether
they’re paying or not. So aside from publicly-owned facilities, all spaces are
privately-owned. Tanglewood is privately owned… Fenway Park is privately owned, but they
are still public gatherings.
If a dance community decided to form a club with membership which was required for entry
(like a members-only golf course) then those would be private events. Invitation-only
events are not public events like weddings. But our dances, which we advertise in hopes of
having the public come (and in the serious hope that we’ll have some new dancers each
night!) are public events.
Stephen Moore
Lenox Contra Dance
and not a lawyer...
On Mar 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Ron Blechner
<contraron(a)gmail.com> wrote:
It's my understanding that most dances are held in non-public spaces, and thus, not
public gatherings. No?
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 7:10 PM Stephen Moore via Organizers
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Hello everyone,
Gads, worrying over dancing issues seems so long ago.
Re: photographs. I edit a small town monthly newspaper/journal in western Massachusetts
and so the laws around photography are pertinent.
It’s pretty simple as far as what is legal- Photography of people, regardless of age, at
a public gathering is permissible without permission.
But as an ongoing event, you might wish to have a more considered approach, especially if
someone has raised it within your dance community.
And by example, a school classroom setting is not a public gathering. Common sense should
prevail too.
Stephen Moore
Lenox Contra Dance
Stephen Moore
P.O. Box 38
Monterey, MA 01245
413-528-4007
On Mar 19, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Lisa Brown via
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Hi Jeff,
Also from our social contract:
Children
● Children are welcome; however, those under 18 must come with an adult.
Lisa
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 1:01 PM Jeff Kaufman <jeff(a)alum.swarthmore.edu
<mailto:jeff@alum.swarthmore.edu>> wrote:
Hi Lisa,
How do you handle situations where someone is taking pictures of the
whole crowd if you have minors dancing?
Do you not allow people under 18 to attend your dance without a
responsible adult?
Jeff
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 12:27 PM Lisa Brown <lisa(a)cdrochester.org
<mailto:lisa@cdrochester.org>> wrote:
Stephen Moore
P.O. Box 38
Monterey, MA 01245
413-528-4007
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We have a photography policy for minors and musicians. It's part of our social
contract.
Photography, Videography, and Recording
● Permission of the responsible adult must be obtained before publishing photos or videos
of minor children.
● Permission of the performers should be obtained before making videos or recordings.
Lisa - Country Dancers of Rochester
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 10:28 PM Jeff Kaufman via Organizers
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BIDA has:
"Photography: We don't have a photography policy, and it is common for
dancers to take pictures and post them on social media." --
https://www.bidadance.org/accessibility <https://www.bidadance.org/accessibility>
We talked a lot about ways in which we could potentially make the
dance better for people who don't want to be photographed or have
their pictures shared, but we ended up running into the same problems
Alan describes.
If you have a place where people can trust that photos of them will
not appear on social media without them having the option to opt out,
then there are people who can come to your dance who couldn't
otherwise. On the other hand, if you make some effort in this
direction but it still happens, which is what will happen unless you
have quite strict enforcement (especially with newcomers), you aren't
successfully making the dance more accessible and you are making the
dance less enjoyable for dancers who like sharing photos.
Jeff
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 10:19 PM Winston, Alan P. via Organizers
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>
> BACDS started trying to address this 10 or so years ago when we wanted to put dance
images in our publicity and privacy concerns meant that we couldn't just use pictures.
It was very frustrating that while the Board was arguing about this stuff pictures of
our dances from random dancers were turning up on FB with no concern for privacy. We
eventually concluded that if we were going to take publicity photos we'd let people
know beforehand, announce what dance in the evening we were going to do it in, and let
people sit down or leave the room for that one dance.
>
> That's okay when you're in charge of the photographer.
>
> It turns out to be effectively impossible to really prevent photography without
draconian measures like searches at the door and confiscating all the cellphones.
>
> The people who don't want to be photographed range from people who just have a
preference to people for whom it's a matter of survival - those who have fled violent
abusers or who are, say, in witness protection. You cannot guarantee their safety and
they need to understand that you can do at most a best-effort attempt.
>
> Given that, it's useful to designate one line as photos okay and have signage at
the desk about not photographing outside of that line, but people will still miss or
forget the signage, so organizers have to keep an eye on it and announcements have to be
made, which may on any given night be for the benefit of people who aren't there.
>
> I don't think we've tried giving people "no photos please" badges.
That might be effective in that people reviewing images before sharing them will see a
reminder in the picture, but it's not likely to be useful for people who livestream a
minute of your dance.
>
> -- Alan
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 6:16 PM
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> Subject: [Organizers] photography policy?
>
> Hi all,
> We in Philadelphia are using our Covid time to try to get some policies done.
>
> One thing that has come up is a photography/video policy. Some dancers do not want
to appear in any photos or videos.
>
> Some ideas we tossed about that have practical drawbacks:
> -designate one line as always non-photo/video
> -buttons or badges for those who do not want to be on camera
>
> Is this something your dance has grappled with? Anything you've come up with
that you're willing to share?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Karey Bacon
> she/her/hers
> 267-437-5641
>
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