On May 10, 2023, at 9:02 AM, Emily Addison via
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We set up a Twitter for Ottawa Contra Dance back in 2014. However, hardly anything
happens with it.
The mailchimp e-newsletters are posted automatically onto twitter.
I'm in my mid-40s so can't speak for the younger crowd anymore but I do hear a
lot of chat about Instagram and Tiktok. I think Instagram could be cool if you have people
taking great photos and the event looks happening. But if not, I'd avoid starting
another channel.
Emily in Ottawa
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 2:44 PM Joe Harrington via Organizers
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wrote:
Users of different socials cluster heavily by
age. My college students refuse to use Facebook. They use Instagram a lot. Discord is
where they hang out, but Discord isn't useful for getting in front of new users.
Facebook is getting less and less effective at that, too. Facebook started being uncool
about 10-15 years ago, so the non-Facebook crowd is now into their 30s. I find that
enough dances (not just contra) are organized around Facebook that there are plenty of
dancers younger than that who do use Facebook solely for dance communication, but that
doesn't find new dancers of that age group.
I tried Reddit and got over a thousand views on several posts! However, not a single
person who actually came to a dance had ever seen one of my Reddit posts. I never found
out who those others were, or what actually counted as a view.
TikTok does put stuff in front of new people, but you have to make a video a certain way
to get a lot of hits, which is much more difficult than just typing a message. TikTok is
also starting to be banned in certain places, such as Florida university campuses. It
mainly appeals to younger folks, maybe under about 25 now, so if you have a few of those,
they might be happy to make and post some videos, and can do it authentically. The most
useful thing I got out of our one TikTok post was the ability to pull it up and show
someone one-on-one. That was quite effective, moreso than YouTube. No clue why they
liked it better.
I got almost 30 new members on Meetup right off, about four or five of whom actually
came. Then, after a month, suddenly no more. I think they were trying to get me to pay
more for placement. Maybe Meetup Pro is worthwhile?
I've never tried Twitter. It hardly seems worthwhile to start, now.
My dance is in all the local online calendars. I discovered that the Orlando Sentinel,
our paper, was cribbing its listings from
OrlandoatPlay.com, but got a date wrong. Out of
curiosity, I asked the venue owner whether anyone showed up that night. He was not
holding an event but was at the venue doing paperwork. Nobody showed up. So, that gave
me a sense for the value of the online arts calendar in a major city's main
newspaper.
If they know what contra is and are looking for it, any web search should get them to
your website. For others, by far the most effective is person-to-person, but that
doesn't scale until you've already got scale.
Getting covered in the media is always good. Holding public outdoor dances or teaching a
dance at another group's event also work.
In the end, though, people are pretty good at defending their time. After all this
effort and going on a year of dances, we're still steady at just 20 dancers.
--jh--
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 11:51 AM Harris Lapiroff via Organizers
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wrote:
I can’t speak to what Rich meant by “our desired
audience” but I personally don’t think of Twitter as a place people go looking for local
social dances to attend, so I think it’s not most social dances’ desired audience of
“people who might come to a dance.” We use Facebook and Meetup to advertise events and are
planning to branch out into Instagram as well.
(It’s possible this isn’t true of all communities. Maybe there are places where people
really do use Twitter to find local events! But it’s not something I’ve encountered.)
On May 9, 2023, at 11:11 AM, Weogo Reed via
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Hi Rich,
I always thought of the folk scene as an inclusive community.
"our desired audience"
This hit me on a personal level.
Why be exclusive?
Thanks and good health, Weogo
> On 5/9/2023 9:39 AM, Rich Dempsey via Organizers wrote:
> We have disabled our Twitter account. In addition to our concerns with current
management, we've found that keeping up with many social media accounts hard to
manage. And some CDR organizers feel that Twitter doesn't align with our desired
audience.
>
> Rich Dempsey
> Country Dancers of Rochester (NY)
>
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