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1. Re: Lower attendance this year? (Paul Pindris via Organizers)
2. Re: Lower attendance this year? (Perry Shafran via Organizers)
3. Re: Organizers Digest, Vol 26, Issue 2
(Elizabeth Szekeres via Organizers)
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 10:18:49 -0500
From: Paul Pindris via Organizers <organizers@lists.sharedweight.net >
To: Mary Collins <nativedae@gmail.com>
Cc: Shared Weight Organizers <Organizers@sharedweight.net>
Subject: Re: [Organizers] Lower attendance this year?
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There has been a new dance in Portland, Maine that started up earlier this
year, which to its credit has been highly successful. It is a weekly
mid-week dance that is not in direct competition with most NH dances, which
are typically held monthly on weekends. However, I have had more than one
person tell me that they are so enthused about this new dance (and
apparently they are able to fulfill their dancing needs by its every-week
scheduling) that they are no longer keen to get out to the smaller, more
local dances. I liken this to the effect of a Super Walmart shutting out
local businesses. Not sure if anything can be done about that.
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Mary Collins <nativedae@gmail.com> wrote:
> Buffalo attendance has been down as well, however the last dance was up a
> bit. Many of our long-time good dancers are not coming. A suggestion has
> been made that the board contact them individually to discuss their MIA
> status, we have not made a decision as how to approach this as yet.
>
> I do know that in some cases there are "opposing" great events on our
> dance nights and we loose our out-of-towners (those that travel to our
> dance) to those. There have been some family illnesses, travel etc. that
> have effected us as well.
>
> One question that has come up among organizers and I wonder if others have
> had similar thoughts...is a particular band or caller keeping folks away?
> thoughts?
>
> Mary Collins, QCCD.org
>
> ?Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass ... it's about learning
> to dance in the rain!? ~ Unknown
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Paul Pindris via Organizers <
> organizers@lists.sharedweight.net > wrote:
>
>> This is astonishing information, as attendance at my dance in Deerfield,
>> NH is down as much as 50% from its peak last season. The reason or reasons
>> are unclear. If the poor attendance continues it potentially jeopardizes
>> the long-term viability of this decades-old event.
>>
>> Paul Pindris
>> Deerfield, NH
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Marie-Mich?le Fournier via Organizers <
>> organizers@lists.sharedweight.net > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Both Montreal and Ottawa have seen lower attendance this fall and we
>>> got word that it's similar in Brooklyn. Are any other local dances seeing
>>> this too? Any idea what might be causing this? Since it happens to both
>>> Canadian and American cities I doubt it's the political climate.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Marie
>>> ContraMontreal
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 15:24:04 +0000 (UTC)
From: Perry Shafran via Organizers <organizers@lists.sharedweight.net >
To: Marie-Mich?le Fournier <mariemichele.fournier@gmail.com >, Shared
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Even attendance at Glen Echo dances have been lower what they once were, though I would not say that the drop off was as dramatic as other locations, it is definitely lower than 10 years ago.?
I can only surmise to why dance attendance has dropped off, but one guess that I have is that the increase of dance weekends, in my opinion, has a detrimental effect of dances are regular weekly/monthly dances.? In some ways it has jaded dancers into believing that the bands/callers/dancers/dancing at the weekly dances aren't as good as those at dance weekends.? We need an increase of community spirit at our local dances so we can keep getting in an influx of new dancers and get them to stay as regular dancers.?
Affordability of dances is another reason (as rents and costs of talent has gone up), and perhaps saturation of dances in any one region.??
Perry
From: Marie-Mich?le Fournier via Organizers <organizers@lists.sharedweight.net >
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Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 8:17 AM
Subject: [Organizers] Lower attendance this year?
Hi all,
??? Both Montreal and Ottawa have seen lower attendance this fall and we got word that it's similar in Brooklyn. Are any other local dances seeing this too? Any idea what might be causing this? Since it happens to both Canadian and American cities I doubt it's the political climate.
Thanks,
Marie
ContraMontreal
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 10:33:57 -0500
From: Elizabeth Szekeres via Organizers
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Hi, All...
Toronto attendance was significantly down during the 15/16 year, and it looks rather the same for 16/17.
I'm wondering if the "good" dancers are preferring to dance at weekend events where the quality of the dancing is considerably better because of the skilled population that attend.
Just putting that thought out there...
I suppose the only way to know for sure is to poll people....
-Elizabeth Szekeres
Talent Coordinator
Toronto Contra Dance
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> 3. Re: Lower attendance this year? (David Kirchner via Organizers)
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> Hi all,
> Both Montreal and Ottawa have seen lower attendance this fall and we
> got word that it's similar in Brooklyn. Are any other local dances seeing
> this too? Any idea what might be causing this? Since it happens to both
> Canadian and American cities I doubt it's the political climate.
> Thanks,
> Marie
> ContraMontreal
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> This is astonishing information, as attendance at my dance in Deerfield, NH
> is down as much as 50% from its peak last season. The reason or reasons are
> unclear. If the poor attendance continues it potentially jeopardizes the
> long-term viability of this decades-old event.
>
> Paul Pindris
> Deerfield, NH
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Marie-Mich?le Fournier via Organizers <
> organizers@lists.sharedweight.net > wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> Both Montreal and Ottawa have seen lower attendance this fall and we
>> got word that it's similar in Brooklyn. Are any other local dances seeing
>> this too? Any idea what might be causing this? Since it happens to both
>> Canadian and American cities I doubt it's the political climate.
>> Thanks,
>> Marie
>> ContraMontreal
>>
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> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 07:55:01 -0600
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> Attendance is holding reasonably steady here in Minneapolis-St. Paul. I
> think we've had a long-term decline from where we were 6-7 years ago, but
> certainly nothing like a 50% drop in a year's time. - David
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 7:25 AM, Paul Pindris via Organizers <
> organizers@lists.sharedweight.net > wrote:
>
>> This is astonishing information, as attendance at my dance in Deerfield,
>> NH is down as much as 50% from its peak last season. The reason or reasons
>> are unclear. If the poor attendance continues it potentially jeopardizes
>> the long-term viability of this decades-old event.
>>
>> Paul Pindris
>> Deerfield, NH
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Marie-Mich?le Fournier via Organizers <
>> organizers@lists.sharedweight.net > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Both Montreal and Ottawa have seen lower attendance this fall and we
>>> got word that it's similar in Brooklyn. Are any other local dances seeing
>>> this too? Any idea what might be causing this? Since it happens to both
>>> Canadian and American cities I doubt it's the political climate.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Marie
>>> ContraMontreal
>>>
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> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 13:55:29 +0000 (UTC)
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> My home dance on Thursdays in Concord MA has been way below average since the summer.?
>
> I heard that the Amherst MA is needing to revise its pay schedule down due to reduced income.
> The Canadian data puts a torpedo in my previous theory that this is a Trump-related effect.
> Could it be that there are too many dances for the population?? Is this Great Contra Collapse of 2016?
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> Buffalo attendance has been down as well, however the last dance was up a
> bit. Many of our long-time good dancers are not coming. A suggestion has
> been made that the board contact them individually to discuss their MIA
> status, we have not made a decision as how to approach this as yet.
>
> I do know that in some cases there are "opposing" great events on our dance
> nights and we loose our out-of-towners (those that travel to our dance) to
> those. There have been some family illnesses, travel etc. that have
> effected us as well.
>
> One question that has come up among organizers and I wonder if others have
> had similar thoughts...is a particular band or caller keeping folks away?
> thoughts?
>
> Mary Collins, QCCD.org
>
> ?Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass ... it's about learning
> to dance in the rain!? ~ Unknown
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Paul Pindris via Organizers <
> organizers@lists.sharedweight.net > wrote:
>
>> This is astonishing information, as attendance at my dance in Deerfield,
>> NH is down as much as 50% from its peak last season. The reason or reasons
>> are unclear. If the poor attendance continues it potentially jeopardizes
>> the long-term viability of this decades-old event.
>>
>> Paul Pindris
>> Deerfield, NH
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Marie-Mich?le Fournier via Organizers <
>> organizers@lists.sharedweight.net > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Both Montreal and Ottawa have seen lower attendance this fall and we
>>> got word that it's similar in Brooklyn. Are any other local dances seeing
>>> this too? Any idea what might be causing this? Since it happens to both
>>> Canadian and American cities I doubt it's the political climate.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Marie
>>> ContraMontreal
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Organizers@lists.sharedweight.net
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