1 Jun
2015
1 Jun
'15
11:12 a.m.
Jim, as I look at your set of dances the first question that occurs to
me is how you dealt with the improper formation without reference to
gender/dance-role.
Kalia
On 6/1/2015 8:14 AM, Jim Hemphill via Callers wrote:
A friend told me about Brooke Friendly's style of
calling ECD and that
was part of the inspiration for this contra program.
Jim
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Roger Hayes <roger.hayes(a)gmail.com
<mailto:roger.hayes@gmail.com>> wrote:
Check out Brooke Friendly and Chris Sackett's English Country dances
- they use "geographic" terms, and structure the dances without
gender roles. It's different, but the dance does keep changing, it's
a live art.
http://www.brookefriendlydance.com/
Aside from Mr. Hemphill's effort recently here described, I know of
no comparable endeavor in contra dance choreography - I suppose
we're more traditional than ECD. Does anyone have info to share?
Roger Hayes
Jim - I don't think I am alone in wondering how you managed this
without telling the dancers. I take that to mean you didn't make it
gender free by the terminology you used (jets or whatever) but by
the kinds of dances you chose. I'd love to read more details about
what this entailed.
Please share more!
Amy
206 330 7408 <tel:206%20330%207408>
Amy(a)calleramy.com <mailto:Amy@calleramy.com>
On Jun 1, 2015, at 5:37 AM, Jim Hemphill via Callers
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The recent discussions on this topic inspired
me to try an
experiment in gender free calling. Last night I called the
contra dance in St. Louis using gender free calling without
telling anyone. The experiment was a great success. I received
lots of positive feedback on the evenings dance. At the break
and after the dance I made a point to ask several dancers, some
were callers as well, if they noticed anything different or
unusual about the dances or how I taught them. One person
noticed that there were more dances that included a swing in the
center for couple 2 than usual. No one I talked to noticed that
the calls and teaching were gender free.
It took some extra time to construct a fun, diverse 3 hour
program, but it is certainly possible. Re-labeling the dancers is
not the only way to call gender free.
If you are interested in the program I used or the larger
collection of gender free dances I chose the program from, send me
an email, arcadian35(a)gmail.com <mailto:arcadian35@gmail.com>.
Thanks,
Jim Hemphill
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2 Jun
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2:21 a.m.
New subject: [Callers] Another approach to Gender Free calling
An approach to subtle gender free calling is to choose choreographies where both members
of the couple do the same thing. Really traditional contra dances often have this
feature, as well as lots of English dances which were not composed with that in mind.
Chorus Jigg is one of those naturally gender free ones:
1s down the outside and back
1s down the middle and back
1s turn contra corners
1s balance and swing.
Since Jim referred to having more dances than usual where 2s swing in the middle I
assumed he'd used this approach to at least some degree. This would restrict the
figure menu. You can do interrupted square thru but you can't do ladies chain. If
you're so gender free that you don't have rules you can't use swings to
progress and neighbor swings could be trouble. But you could call an evening without
specific gender reference to a group who already knew roles and where swings ends using
only partner, neighbor, 1s and 2s, and they might not notice that you never said gents and
ladies.
Alan
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On Jun 1, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Kalia Kliban via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Jim, as I look at your set of dances the first question that occurs to me is how you
dealt with the improper formation without reference to gender/dance-role.
Kalia
On 6/1/2015 8:14 AM, Jim Hemphill via Callers
wrote:
A friend told me about Brooke Friendly's style of calling ECD and that
was part of the inspiration for this contra program.
Jim
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Roger Hayes <roger.hayes(a)gmail.com
<mailto:roger.hayes@gmail.com>> wrote:
Check out Brooke Friendly and Chris Sackett's English Country dances
- they use "geographic" terms, and structure the dances without
gender roles. It's different, but the dance does keep changing, it's
a live art.
http://www.brookefriendlydance.com/
Aside from Mr. Hemphill's effort recently here described, I know of
no comparable endeavor in contra dance choreography - I suppose
we're more traditional than ECD. Does anyone have info to share?
Roger Hayes
Jim - I don't think I am alone in wondering how you managed this
without telling the dancers. I take that to mean you didn't make it
gender free by the terminology you used (jets or whatever) but by
the kinds of dances you chose. I'd love to read more details about
what this entailed.
Please share more!
Amy
206 330 7408 <tel:206%20330%207408>
Amy(a)calleramy.com <mailto:Amy@calleramy.com>
On Jun 1, 2015, at 5:37 AM, Jim Hemphill via Callers
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http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net The recent discussions on this topic inspired
me to try an
experiment in gender free calling. Last night I called the
contra dance in St. Louis using gender free calling without
telling anyone. The experiment was a great success. I received
lots of positive feedback on the evenings dance. At the break
and after the dance I made a point to ask several dancers, some
were callers as well, if they noticed anything different or
unusual about the dances or how I taught them. One person
noticed that there were more dances that included a swing in the
center for couple 2 than usual. No one I talked to noticed that
the calls and teaching were gender free.
It took some extra time to construct a fun, diverse 3 hour
program, but it is certainly possible. Re-labeling the dancers is
not the only way to call gender free.
If you are interested in the program I used or the larger
collection of gender free dances I chose the program from, send me
an email, arcadian35(a)gmail.com <mailto:arcadian35@gmail.com>.
Thanks,
Jim Hemphill
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3:13 a.m.
New subject: [Callers] Another approach to Gender Free calling
Alan, that is exactly what I did. I chose a variety of dances that
excluded reference to a gendered role. It was actually a good night to try
this style of calling. A good sized group of ladies celebrating a birthday
showed up for our dance, almost all of them brand new to contra, so there
was a good sized gender imbalance. I noticed several ladies who rarely
switch roles were doing so to help incorporate all the new dancers. I hope
the lack of gender references in the calls helped. I know when I dance the
ladies role I have to stop myself from making a 3 pronged star every time I
hear gents allemande left.
I was completely prepared to switch to a "normal" program if I sensed any
discontent. Going in I had decided to do the 1st half with gender free
calls and I had two 2nd half program lines ready to choose from. The 1st
half of the dance went so well that I stuck with the gender free call
program I had for the 2nd half.
Jim
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 12:21 AM, Winston, Alan P. via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
An approach to subtle gender free calling is to choose
choreographies
where both members of the couple do the same thing. Really traditional
contra dances often have this feature, as well as lots of English dances
which were not composed with that in mind.
Chorus Jigg is one of those naturally gender free ones:
1s down the outside and back
1s down the middle and back
1s turn contra corners
1s balance and swing.
Since Jim referred to having more dances than usual where 2s swing in the
middle I assumed he'd used this approach to at least some degree. This
would restrict the figure menu. You can do interrupted square thru but you
can't do ladies chain. If you're so gender free that you don't have rules
you can't use swings to progress and neighbor swings could be trouble. But
you could call an evening without specific gender reference to a group who
already knew roles and where swings ends using only partner, neighbor, 1s
and 2s, and they might not notice that you never said gents and ladies.
Alan
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On Jun 1, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Kalia Kliban via
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Jim, as I look at your set of dances the first question that occurs to
me is how
you dealt with the improper formation without reference to
gender/dance-role.
Kalia
> On 6/1/2015 8:14 AM, Jim Hemphill via Callers wrote:
> A friend told me about Brooke Friendly's style of calling ECD and that
> was part of the inspiration for this contra program.
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Roger Hayes <roger.hayes(a)gmail.com
> <mailto:roger.hayes@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Check out Brooke Friendly and Chris Sackett's English Country dances
> - they use "geographic" terms, and structure the dances without
> gender roles. It's different, but the dance does keep changing, it's
> a live art.
>
> http://www.brookefriendlydance.com/
>
> Aside from Mr. Hemphill's effort recently here described, I know of
> no comparable endeavor in contra dance choreography - I suppose
> we're more traditional than ECD. Does anyone have info to share?
>
> Roger Hayes
>
> Jim - I don't think I am alone in wondering how you managed this
> without telling the dancers. I take that to mean you didn't make it
> gender free by the terminology you used (jets or whatever) but by
> the kinds of dances you chose. I'd love to read more details about
> what this entailed.
>
> Please share more!
>
> Amy
> 206 330 7408 <tel:206%20330%207408>
> Amy(a)calleramy.com <mailto:Amy@calleramy.com>
>
> On Jun 1, 2015, at 5:37 AM, Jim Hemphill via Callers
> <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
> <mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:
>
>> The recent discussions on this topic inspired me to try an
>> experiment in gender free calling. Last night I called the
>> contra dance in St. Louis using gender free calling without
>> telling anyone. The experiment was a great success. I received
>> lots of positive feedback on the evenings dance. At the break
>> and after the dance I made a point to ask several dancers, some
>> were callers as well, if they noticed anything different or
>> unusual about the dances or how I taught them. One person
>> noticed that there were more dances that included a swing in the
>> center for couple 2 than usual. No one I talked to noticed that
>> the calls and teaching were gender free.
>> It took some extra time to construct a fun, diverse 3 hour
>> program, but it is certainly possible. Re-labeling the dancers is
>> not the only way to call gender free.
>> If you are interested in the program I used or the larger
>> collection of gender free dances I chose the program from, send me
>> an email, arcadian35(a)gmail.com <mailto:arcadian35@gmail.com>.
>> Thanks,
>> Jim Hemphill
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