I agree with Yoyo and others: so much of the order I teach figures depends on the dancers and the gig. Having just done a couple one-night-stand gigs, I had the realization that I use the same formula more or less for all dances: Can I teach a dance in less than 5 minutes--or 8 at the most--and start with the music. Hence, for rank beginners, start with circles, into the center, swings, and promenades--I can do all this with music and no talking... Then the Virginia Reel. Then onto what dancers are ready for. On rare occasions, hands four dances. Usually not... If I'm teaching after doing a beginners' workshop, I do an extremely glossary dance that covers the figures we drilled in the workshop: Lady's Chain, R&L Thru, Balance & Swing. The beginners have had a chance to walk it and learn it, then, when the dance starts, the experienced dancers have no problem helping. ABC Improper A1 Neighbor Balance & Swing A2 Women Chain over & back B1 R & L Thru over & back --OR-- B1 R & L Thru; Half Promenade B2 Long Lines Forward & Back; Ones Swing The OR B2 depends on how well dancers learned the R&L Thru. The challenge on the R&L Thru is mostly for the women, who are naturally steered the wrong way. Men can help, of course, in the pull by, but that takes awareness--something I usually point out in a workshop. And noting other comments, I have come to usually teach the Right & Left Thru first, the Chain second. I've done it both ways, and, of course, works or it doesn't... Although I do think of how people enter into the next figure, I often think if it as what kind of connection there is, and whether the position is ambiguous. I'll alter dances based on this. Like, another beginner dance is the slightly altered Nice Combination, by the late Gene Hubert: Nice Combination (slightly altered): Gene Hubert A1 Neighbor Balance & Swing A2 Down Hall Four in Line, Turn as Couples, Return, Fold to Circle B1 Circle Left 3/4; Partner Swing B2 Women Chain; Long Lines Forward & Back The original ends with a B2 Women Chain, Star Left Where a star starts and ends is a bit ambiguous until a dancer has internalized the bearings of the dance. So finding the next neighbor out of a mess of people possibly looking at their left hands in the center of the star is a challenge. Long lines forward and back has you connected to the previous neighbor and your next neighbor, and, if a mistake is made, is a bit easier to see where you're supposed to be. This lack of connection is what causes problems in things like a hey, where there is a milling about with no contact, and no sense of the bearings and characters like up, down, across, right, left, current neighbor, partner, etc. If I'm calling to mostly beginners, and it's a regular contra series, I'll call Carlotta Wellington's "Taking Liberties with Jefferson" Taking Liberties With Jefferson Carlotta Wellington Improper (or Proper--doesn't matter, though technically Improper) A1 Circle Left; Star left (back to starting point) A2 Ones Down Outside, Return, Step to Center making Line of Four with Twos--Ones in Center B1 Down Hall Four in Line; Ones Arch, Twos Duck Through to end up above Ones, Return 2x2 ("Twos in Front, Ones Behind) B2 All Balance & Swing Partner, End facing a New Couple I like Yoyo's dance below, and will start using it, too. Could go on, but that's enough for now... Erik Hoffman Oakland, CA -----Original Message----- From: Callers [mailto:callers-bounces@lists.sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Yoyo Zhou via Callers Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:25 PM To: Luke Donforth <luke.donev(a)gmail.com> Cc: Callers(a)Lists.Sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] Favorite dance to teach a ladies chain? On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Luke Donforth via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: Definitely for the first introduction to courtesy turn, just one chain ("half chain") and with neighbor. My choice of dance depends on the crowd and what issues they are having, and whether the beginners have enough experienced neighbors to help them. For instance, sometimes they struggle to end a swing or courtesy turn on the correct side. Entering a courtesy turn from a swing (or long lines) is fine even if dancers don't end on the left/right correctly. Going from courtesy turn into a ladies allemande or do si do is also fine if they don't end on the left/right correctly. One thing that occurred to me while pondering left hand stars was: what happens if the courtesy turn doesn't end on time but 4 beats late? How forgiving is the next move? With some figures like forward and back, or ladies allemande, it's easy to see what's going on and skip ahead. With left hand stars, though, it *looks* like it's easy to see what's going on, but there is a temptation to join in the star wherever (disorienting for what follows, usually progression) or dash madly to get into the right place (stressful). Or the whole star is late. And it's not intuitive to many dancers (even experienced) where they need to join into the star; it's less familiar than, say, a circle. And I've also seen dancers struggle with letting go of the star to find the next neighbor. As you've said, I think there are choreographic needs that could be filled here - there is a common sequence that looks like 4. chain to P 5. ladies allemande/do si do 1 6. P swing which it would be great to do with neighbors instead. Here's a suggestion - I'm ready to believe Bob (or another choreographer) has written it already: becket A1: slice left to meet new N; ladies chain to N A2: ladies allemande right 1; N swing B1: down the hall, turn as couples B2: circle left 3/4; P swing Yoyo Zhou _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net