See http://www.iagsdchistory.org/historywiki/index.php?title=Gender_Roles
for a discussion of gender roles and gender terminology in general, and use in the LGBTQ* clubs that make up the IAGSDC in particular.

Boys/Girls, Gents/Ladies, Men/Women are used very interchangeably in MWSD.

Belles/Beaus DO NOT mean the same thing (see above article and CALLERLAB definitions).

To my knowledge there are no MWSD clubs that use truly non-gendered terms. Upwards of 99.9% of callers would not be able to easily call to such a group, nor would such dancers be able to travel anywhere else and dance.

So to my question: How do the dancers identify which roles the other people are dancing? Traditionally this is done with dancers taking the opposite role to their gender wearing bands, but that is surely inappropriate if the dance is GF.

Dancers dance their own part. Period. Full stop. Most dancers are somewhat capable of tracking the arrangement of dancers within the ever changing formations of MWSD. If a caller says "boys u-turn back", a dancer only has to know their own gender role. If a caller says "centers trade" a dancer only has to know their own position, and determine who is the other center. If a caller says "boys trade" a boy dancer must determine who is the "other boy" they must work with (not that different from the centers example). If dancers aren't 100% sure who that person is, they will self-identify (calling out "boy!") while the other boys do the same, thus knowing who they must trade with. This works very smoothly in practice and is not a problem.

Hope that helps!

Andy Shore
contra and MWSD caller
CALLERLAB member
past president Gay Callers Association

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Seth Seeger via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi Jeremy,

At MIT’s Tech Squares, “boys” and “girls” are used, sometimes with “ladies” and “gents” thrown in.  However, many dancers dance either role.  If you are dancing a role that does not visibly match your gender, you typically call out (not too loudly) “boy” or “girl”, when the caller gives a call that is specific to a gender.  As you get more accomplished as a dancer, you seem to not need to call that out as much - if the dance is moving, the flow of the dance should usually indicate who is supposed to move.

Seth


 


On Oct 4, 2017, at 1:54 PM, Jeremy Child via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

Hi

I have a question for anyone who calls or dances Gender Free MWSD (by Gender Free I mean where no assumptions are made about what role a dancer will take based on their gender).

I've been told that GF MWSD dances still use the terms "Boys" and "Girls", but please correct me if I'm wrong. 

MWSD is unique amongst folk dancing in that dancers need to know the role being danced by others in the square (if I'm a "boy" and the call is "boys trade", I need to know who the other boy in my line / wave is in order to do the call).  

So to my question: How do the dancers identify which roles the other people are dancing? Traditionally this is done with dancers taking the opposite role to their gender wearing bands, but that is surely inappropriate if the dance is GF.

Also, if any MWSD clubs are using truly non-gendered terms, please let me know.

Thanks in Advance

Jeremy
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