Thank you! That sure does look like the same dance except B2 (or in the original, C1!)
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Today's Topics:
1. Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer? (Liz Burkhart)
2. Re: Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer? (Winston, Alan P.)
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Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 20:36:43 -0400
From: Liz Burkhart <burkhart.liz@gmail.com>
To: callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer?
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I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff by
Nils Fredland, then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it
online, discovered Coconut Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same dance:
4 Facing 4
A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back
middles star R once
A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2
new middles star R once
B1 Partner balance & swing
B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places)
Balance ring, partner California twirl
So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two
choreographers attributed?
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 00:41:03 +0000
From: "Winston, Alan P." <winston@slac.stanford.edu>
To: "callers@lists.sharedweight.net" <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer?
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My understanding is that Lynn adapted Ron Beeson's dance, Apple Pie Quadrille, by changing B2 into a can't-fail circle progression from a "Devil's Backbone" progression.
I'm going to guess that Nils called it at a dance and somebody misattributed the dance to him and got the name wrong.
Here's the notation Ridge Kennedy posted for Apple Pie Quadrille on the trad-dance-callers list:
APPLE PIE QUADRILLE
Ron Beeson (via Ridge Kennedy)
Four Facing Four
Called by Kathy Anderson at Buffalo gap 2002
Ask for lively music that's a bit silly to suit the dance.
A-1 Lines of Four, Forward and Back
(Reminder - this is original direction!) (8)
Center Four (dancers in the middle of each line of four):
Star Right Once Around (8)
A-2 Partners Allemande Left Once and a Half (8)
Ends (Original ends of each line of four, now Center Four)
Star Right Once Around (8)
B-1 Partners balance and swing (16)
B-2 "End Man" (Man on left end of line):Lead back over left shoulder to
invert line. Lead around the *other* end of the other line and all
face original direction and a new line of four. (16)
Notes: Tricky Part: Leading the line back and around is counter-intuitive.
End man starts turning in opposite direction that his line is progressing.
Original dance:
A-1 Lines forward and back (8) All do sa do opposite dancer (8)
A-2 Centre four star right (8) All allemande left with partner x 3/2 (8)
B-1 New centre four star right (8) All swing partners (8)
B-2 Circle left all eight once round (16)
C-1 The left hand man casts left taking his line around the other line
to face the next line (16)
-- Alan
On 5/29/2019 5:36 PM, Liz Burkhart via Callers wrote:
I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff by Nils Fredland, then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it online, discovered Coconut Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same dance:
4 Facing 4
A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back
middles star R once
A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2
new middles star R once
B1 Partner balance & swing
B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places)
Balance ring, partner California twirl
So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two choreographers attributed?
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