Dave, Andrea,and Yoyo,
My apologies, you are absolutely correct.  I somehow confused "Boys from Urbana" with another dance.  The two dances are very similar, and the untitled dance could easily be considered a variation of "Boys from Urbana". 
Rich Sbardella

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Dave Casserly <david.j.casserly@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Andrea and Yoyo that this dance is very similar to Boys from Urbana, enough certainly to qualify as a variation of the same dance.  Literally the only difference is that there's a 1/2 gents allemenade after the progression in Boys from Urbana.  And this one starts at a different spot than Boys from Urbana usually starts, but there's no reason Boys has to start there.

I also agree with Yoyo about the timing.  The reason Boys from Urbana works well is that there are 2 beats to veer each direction, then 4 beats for the gent to allemande left 1/2.  In this dance, timing in B2 is unclear: 3/4 circle left is typically 6 beats, which leaves 10 for the veer left and veer right.  Dancers won't split that into 5 beats and 5 beats, so it's uneven.  Some dancers will compensate by taking extra time to circle left, and doing it in 8 beats instead of 6, but other dancers find such circles unsatisfying.

-Dave
Washington, DC

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:


Sent from my external brain

On Oct 6, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

While we are at this, here is another untitled dance.  I am not sure where I collected it.

Can anyone name it?

a1  N B&S
a2  LL, Ladies Alle R 1 1/2
b1  P B&S
b2  CL 3/4, Veer Left, Veer Right 

This looks like Boys from Urbana


Rich Sbardella

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:29 PM, frannie via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I have it as a variation of Berkeley Bind by Erik Hoffman. Long lines instead of a full circle Left.   If it's actually something else I'd love to give it correct credit. 

~Frannie

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Any insights?

A1: neighbor B&S
A2: long lines
gents alle. L 1 1/2
B1: PB&S
B2: circle L 3/4
Bal. the ring, CA twirl to face new neighbors

Cheers,
Maia

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