On Mon, Jun 01, 2015, Bob Stein via Callers wrote:
 
 This discussion of ECD just made me realize that the one move that is
 usually specifically gender related -- Ladies Chain -- is actually 2nd
 corners chain.  If the idea of first and second corners is introduced
 to contra dancers than there would be no problem with most of the
 moves: chains, allemandes, heys.  It all becomes position oriented. 
Maybe so.  But this discussion is making me realize part of the reason I
dislike ECD: this positional notation.  It's not that position is
difficult for me in general terms, because that's a lot of MWSD, but
something about the "corners" notation I find difficult (I also have
difficulty with contra corners).
I wonder how many other people have similar difficulty and to what
extent this accounts for the ECD/contra divide.
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