I like a swing in every dance, but I agree with George that it is not necessary to have a
neighbor swing in every dance. As a dancer, I'm happy to do a dance where I only swing
my partner, especially if the dance has other interesting choreography that one
couldn't get otherwise by squeezing two swings into it. I've noticed, for example,
that I've been to more than one dance with two (or even three) swings in every dance
where there never was a full hey figure the whole night. I like the full hey, smooth,
flowing, whirly - and there are some dances with full heys and two swings, but overall,
the emphasis on two swings can leave these out. Cary, you write quite fascinating and
flowing dances with the rules that you've chosen, and I call many of them. But as a
dancer I'm not sure I notice or enjoy a dance less if my swing in the B part is with
my neighbor, unless it's the very last swing of the dance - and as a caller, I can
change the last moves up so people swing their partner to avoid that if I wish.
On the other hand, if I'm calling a barn dance with no introduction and just getting
people moving, I may do dances without swings, or use two-hand turns or elbow swings at
best. I've also called contra on some rough ground at parks, where a walking swing was
even a bit tough, and threw in one or two dances without swings that suited the terrain
better. People seemed relieved about that.
Martha
On Jun 24, 2015, at 7:34 PM, Cary Ravitz via Callers wrote:
Why swings in every dance - because that is a huge
part of the contra experience, a swing with the person that you asked to dance.
Why should the partner swing follow the neighbor swing - because this is an art form, not
an exercise routine. The storyline of a contra is the uniting of partners, not the the
breaking up of partners (that's my preference anyway). And in practical terms, I want
to be with my partner at the end of a dance to thank them quickly before finding another
partner.
"Squares are just like contras, only you have to listen" - this is not
correct.
Some things that people to not like about squares -
less movement/music connection due to lack of strict phrasing
having to listen to the caller breaks the movement/music connection
teaching time
mixer squares breaks the partner connection
visiting squares leave people "out of the dance" for long periods.
I find squares and contras completely different.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:47 AM, George Mercer via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I may not be a good example or even that good a caller, but ... I like swings, I have no
need to have a neighbor swing in every dance and most certainly don't care where in
the dance the neighbor swing happens. That's making up rules for the sake of having
rules. I like the buzz step, but to put it mildly there are many dancers with whom a buzz
step is impossible, difficult or merely uncomfortable. I teach a walking swing and
sometimes demonstrate a buzz step with a little time for practice. Far too many callers
and beginner workshop instructors teach a buzz step in a way that promotes bouncing, which
in turn makes swinging difficult or worse. I've also heard more than one
caller-instructor tell dancers that to "give weight" (an inadequate term) they
should lean back. Just kill me. As a dancer, I often combine a walking swing-with a buzz
step -- especially if we have gotten out of sync with the music. I come down on to the
floor when I think it's required. On two occasions recently while dancing, the person
I was dancing with said, "Well, this a dance the caller has never actually danced
before. If she or he had, she or he wouldn't have chosen it." Amen. I was at an
dance recently where a mixer was called near the end of the evening. I'm not sure what
that was all about. Once early in my limited calling career,just as the first dance got
underway about 20 newcomers walked in. I then called several dances without swings, just
to get them acclimated to moving in rhythm and with the music. I'll never do that
again. I was too cautious and shouldn't have been. I honestly was afraid the
experienced dancers were going to hurt me. And they say I can't learn. Perhaps my
biggest peeve on the dance floor is the experienced dancers who insist on sharing their
bad dance habits (swinging backwards, excessive and unexpected twirling -- I almost wrote
twerking --, inappropriate dipping, showing how athletic and fancy they are, etc.) with
new dancers rather than helping them learn the basic fundamentals, timing and courtesy. I
love squares. Not everyone does, but I often explain to people in my square, "squares
are just like contras, only you have to listen." And finally, callers, please stop
telling people that when they reach the end of the line, "they're out."
This seems to encourgae dancers to think, "Well now, I don't have to pay
attention." While they are on the floor they should "stay in the dance."
That just may be me. Thanks, George
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Cary Ravitz
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