Rich kindly pointed out that I was mistaken about Butter being the one
with the hey leading into the progression. Note to self: never post to
lists before having coffee...
Kalia
Do you like half heys? My suggestions there for nice forgiving dances are
Hocus Pocus by Lisa Greenleaf and The Social Butterfly by John Coffman.
Star promenade into hey is also great. You might enjoy Heart of Glass by
Cary Ravitz.
Yoyo Zhou
Hello Folks,
I am relatively new at calling contras and I am looking for some asy to
intermediate contras to introduce the hey to a group that includes many
beginners. and/or club square dancers.
"Butter" by Gene Hubert is my go to dance, but I am looking for a few
more. I like Butter because the flow from ladies chain into a RH hey is
great, and because all the other calls are introduced earlier in most
evening.
I love simple, but different choreography, so I am open to most suggestions.
Rich Sbardella
Is this it????
Mange TalkBy Ron BuchananFormation: Contra, duple improper
A1- Give left hand to neighbor: balance andswing A2- Pass through to an ocean wave (seenote), balanceAllemande right neighbor halfway,gents allemande left halfway,allemande right partner¾ B1- Turn shadow by the left and swing yourpartner B2- Pass through to an ocean wave, balanceAllemande right partner halfway, gentsallemande left halfway, allemanderight neighbor¾ to a new neighborThe title is Danish for “Many Thanks.”
To passthrough to an ocean wave: start to pass opposite bythe right shoulder, ladies catch left hands and turnjust¼ as gents walk all the way to the other side andtake right hands with the lady to form a wavy line-of-4 across.
Laurie P West MI
On Monday, December 7, 2015 9:10 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Ron Buchanan this one at Contracopia, and it was a lot of fun!
???, by ??? (becket)A1: pass the ocean and balancepartner R 1/2, gents L 1/2, balanceA2: neighbor R 3/4, new neighbor swingB1: pass the ocean and balanceneighbor R 1/2, gents L 1/2, balanceB2: partner swing
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Oh! I believe that the B2 was a do-si-do and swing, actually (misremembered
it because my partner and I changed it). Which makes the dance as I recall
it:
A1: pass the ocean and balance
partner R 1/2, gents L 1/2, balance
A2: neighbor R 3/4, new neighbor swing
B1: pass the ocean and balance
neighbor R 1/2, gents L 1/2, balance
B2: partner do-si-do
partner swing
And it DOES look similar to Mongatock (Manga Tak?), I agree, but I
definitely recall reforming and balancing waves after both of the
pass-the-ocean/allemande sequences.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Donna Hunt <dhuntdancer(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Mongatock* Ron Buchannan Improper
> A1 Balance and Swing Neighbor
>
> A2 Pass to ocean wave, *Balance*, Neighbor R, Gents Left,
> Partner Right Allem ¾
>
> B1 Shadow Allem 1x
> Partner Swing
>
> B2 Pass to ocean wave, *Balance*, Partner R, Gents Left,
> Neighbor Right Allem ¾
>
> I know he called this one, Mongatock, could you have transcribed it
> wrong?
> Donna
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>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Mon, Dec 7, 2015 9:10 pm
> Subject: [Callers] Mystery dance from Contracopia
>
> Ron Buchanan this one at Contracopia, and it was a lot of fun!
>
> ???, by ??? (becket)
> A1: pass the ocean and balance
> partner R 1/2, gents L 1/2, balance
> A2: neighbor R 3/4, new neighbor swing
> B1: pass the ocean and balance
> neighbor R 1/2, gents L 1/2, balance
> B2: partner swing
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Ron Buchanan this one at Contracopia, and it was a lot of fun!
???, by ??? (becket)
A1: pass the ocean and balance
partner R 1/2, gents L 1/2, balance
A2: neighbor R 3/4, new neighbor swing
B1: pass the ocean and balance
neighbor R 1/2, gents L 1/2, balance
B2: partner swing
Hi, Luke,
Great to see you at ValleyCopia and ContraCopia this past weekend. Enjoyed
your sets! :)
Carol Ormand wrote a dance with a double do-si-do. I'm afraid I can't
remember the name and I don't have my cards handy at the moment. It's in
either Jurassic Redheads or Lizard Research Institute.
I also danced it and remember that it took some time to teach and was
rather technical. By technical, I mean that every time we got to that move
in the dance, I felt like I had to drop out of the flow and pay attention
to the mechanics of the move and to avoiding the other dancers. When it
worked, it was *really* cool. More often than not, however, it was more
like just avoiding the other dancers and getting back to place in time.
Not suggesting that it doesn't or can't work, just that you'll want to
teach it very clearly and make sure it fits into and adds value to the
dance's story line.
Thanks for keeping the creative juices going.
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Thanks all for the feedback. I appreciate having this list to kick ideas
> around.
>
> While it would be possible for the do-si-dos to happen in two groups of 2;
> in my opinion that would make this a particularly non-interacting 4x4; as
> the only whole group of 8 interaction at that point is the circle half way;
> and thus not worth getting into 4x4 formation for just that.
>
> As for my comment about the ladies after the chain.
>
> After the give&take - swing, the lines are:
> w3 m1 w4 m2
> m3 w1 m4 w2
>
> When the women chain to the partner, if they went straight up and down,
> they're ending up back at:
> w1 m1 w2 m2
> m3 w3 m4 w4
> after being courtesy turned through 180 degrees.
>
> Except the next move is happening in the center, so as w2 and w3 are being
> courtesy turned, they'll be facing into the center after maybe 140 degrees
> of rotation; whereas w1 and w4 have to turn about 220 degrees to face into
> center.
>
> As for language, I think I may have muddied the issue; so thank you for
> demonstrating all the ways that my instructions could be interpreted.
> Always a learning experience. A handless star/promenade inside/4 person
> gypsy is not quite what I had in mind, although they're all basically the
> same path on the floor and certainly what I described. I'd envisioned folks
> getting to do-si-do with as little or as much twirling as the wanted; but
> as folks pointed out, the DSD twirl is the opposite direction of the big
> picture rotation.
>
> If I can get dancers to test it, I might describe it as "all four women,
> do-si-do your opposite woman while dodging the other two"
>
> Given that's how I'm thinking of it; the fact that my description involves
> "dodging" might be a sign it's not such a great idea. The promenade inside
> or star options might be more timing resilient; although I like the idea of
> letting folks safely twirl when they want.
>
> I'll keep turning it over in my head, and try to get guinea pigs to dance
> it (there's something that would go viral on youtube...)
>
> Thanks for being a community to talk about dancing with :-)
> Luke
>
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Luke,
In square dance there is a figure called grand sashay. It is essentially a
grand R&L, or weave the ring, with dosidos and seesaw. You might look that
figure up as the weave is a dodge, and the dosido//seesaw would allow for
twirling.
I have included the definition below. Grand Sashay is fun to dance, and
the hands can be eliminated if desired. If it is done inside a square or
mescolanza it should bring the four dancers back to where they started it,
and it would be 32 steps/beats.
That is a long time to keep the men inactive. However if all eight dancers
danced it in a mescolanza, they would end up on opposite ends and in
opposite lines. This could be a useful call that results in progression
just as in a R&L Grande. Dancers could balance & swing and then face
original direction when they meet.
*Definition:*
>From a Right And Left Grand Formation (e.g., after Allemande Left).
Dosado, right pull by;
Seesaw, left pull by;
Dosado, right pull by;
Seesaw, left pull by.
Ends in a Right And Left Grand Formation.
*Comments and Examples:*
Same as *Right And Left Grand* except that a
*Dosado* or *Seesaw* (left-shoulder Dosado)
is inserted before each pull by.
The Burleson's definition says to bow before each pull by.
Rickey Holden 1949
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Thanks all for the feedback. I appreciate having this list to kick ideas
> around.
>
> While it would be possible for the do-si-dos to happen in two groups of 2;
> in my opinion that would make this a particularly non-interacting 4x4; as
> the only whole group of 8 interaction at that point is the circle half way;
> and thus not worth getting into 4x4 formation for just that.
>
> As for my comment about the ladies after the chain.
>
> After the give&take - swing, the lines are:
> w3 m1 w4 m2
> m3 w1 m4 w2
>
> When the women chain to the partner, if they went straight up and down,
> they're ending up back at:
> w1 m1 w2 m2
> m3 w3 m4 w4
> after being courtesy turned through 180 degrees.
>
> Except the next move is happening in the center, so as w2 and w3 are being
> courtesy turned, they'll be facing into the center after maybe 140 degrees
> of rotation; whereas w1 and w4 have to turn about 220 degrees to face into
> center.
>
> As for language, I think I may have muddied the issue; so thank you for
> demonstrating all the ways that my instructions could be interpreted.
> Always a learning experience. A handless star/promenade inside/4 person
> gypsy is not quite what I had in mind, although they're all basically the
> same path on the floor and certainly what I described. I'd envisioned folks
> getting to do-si-do with as little or as much twirling as the wanted; but
> as folks pointed out, the DSD twirl is the opposite direction of the big
> picture rotation.
>
> If I can get dancers to test it, I might describe it as "all four women,
> do-si-do your opposite woman while dodging the other two"
>
> Given that's how I'm thinking of it; the fact that my description involves
> "dodging" might be a sign it's not such a great idea. The promenade inside
> or star options might be more timing resilient; although I like the idea of
> letting folks safely twirl when they want.
>
> I'll keep turning it over in my head, and try to get guinea pigs to dance
> it (there's something that would go viral on youtube...)
>
> Thanks for being a community to talk about dancing with :-)
> Luke
>
>
>
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Hey, I'm new here, but what a great idea for a figure, Luke. Am I correct
in assuming that, in addition to being similar to a RH star sans hands,
that the dancers are also facing the same direction throughout the figure,
like you're supposed to do for a regular two-person do-si-do? So the
dancers would be walking forward 4 steps, moving around three other
dancers, and then reversing back to place? I can't see it taking much more
time than a regular RH star. The dancer's adjust, just like they do to any
other figure that takes more or less time than allotted, realistically.
There's also a figure from English country dancing, which is not much like
you're suggesting, but it may provide some inspiration for tweaking this
figure. It's called a Mad Robin and involves 4 people doing a sideways
do-si-do in couples.
What if you had the closer women do a do-si-do followed very quickly by the
next two? And then take the previous suggestion about choreographing a
"soft" figure afterwards, so the one or two beats is not an interruption.
Greg
Hi Luke,
I suspect you will have timing problems in a Double Contra because
of the extra time it takes for the people at the ends of the lines.
I have a couple of dances with a DosiAll and the other challenge is
getting them all to start at the same time. I solve this with a Balance the
Ring first; that launches everyone into the DosiAll at the same time.
My contra with a DosiAll is a standard contra, so it is two couples
- four individuals - all doing a dosido at the same time.
When I teach it I sometimes get the men to dosido and then the
ladies to dosido, then explain that we can't afford all those extra notes,
so they are going to have to do both dosidos at the same time. If they
start moving slightly more to their left than they would normally then that
will help to avoid crashes. The balance before each DosiAll is to ensure
that everyone starts into the movement at the same time. It's really at its
best when all four dancers do the counterclockwise spins that are common in
dosidos.
You can also teach it by getting the four dancers to do a four
person Gypsy; that is the track they follow - now do it as a Dosido.
The dancers all have to be confident and go for it - because you are
following the same track, but with your back to the other people, or
spinning, then you need everyone to keep moving.
I have included below a three couple dance which only has three
people doing the DosiAll at the same time. I sometimes use that to get
people used to the concept.
DosiAll (by John Sweeney)
Contra; Becket
A1: Circle Right Half Way; Balance the Ring
DosiAll
A2: Circle Left Half Way; Balance the Ring
DosiAll
B1: Partner Balance & Swing
B2: On the Left Diagonal: Half Hey - Ladies lead by Right Shoulder
Half Promenade Across and flow into.
Gypsy A Trois (by John Sweeney)
Three Couples in a Circle
A1: Circle Left Four Steps; Balance the Ring
Men DosiAll
A2: Circle Left Four Steps; Balance the Ring
Ladies DosiAll
B1: Partner Allemande Left to
Ladies Right Shoulder Gypsy WHILE Men Single File Promenade CCW outside
the set
B2: Meet your Partner (second time, at home): Partner Allemande Left (about
half) to your Corner
Corner Swing - this is your new Partner
x3 should take you home
Please let me know if your dancers enjoy them.
Happy dancing,
John
John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
