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Re: [Callers] Demolition Derby, a 4 Face 4 of dubious do-ability?

by Colin Hume

Don - I don't understand why Americans are so keen on this "Mad Robin" move. Instead of staring at your partner the whole time, why not interact with other people and just do a hey for four? Colin Hume

6 years, 7 months

Re: [Callers] Demolition Derby, a 4 Face 4 of dubious do-ability?

by Bob Green

Well Don, you know you shouldn't be smoking that stuff....... ))) Sugar Hill is next weekend. We should be able to wrangle up enough dancers to give this a decent walk-thru. This looks like a great dance to tryout at 4:00 in the morning. :::wink::: If I have this right you are weaving the line, but faced like you are a crab. This is one of those I think a demo set would be the most expedient teach the A2. Get 8 dancers walked through it before the dance starts or at the break. If I have this … [View More]right you are weaving the line of 4 facing up & down the hall, faced like you are a crab. Looks like it might be fun! Bob Green On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 1:22 AM, Don Veino via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Earlier today, I resurrected a draft dance from (almost exactly) this > time last year which I'd put aside as probably being too crazy. In looking > at it again, I started wondering if it is... too crazy... and wrote up a > more specific description to get it across to others. The magnet people > show me it works, but they don't say much about how it felt. :-) > > As I'm still up due to the caffeine I drank to drive home after a gig > tonight, I thought I'd type this up and throw it out there for input. Is it > too crazy? How would you teach the A2 if you attempted it? > > Thanks, > Don > > Demolition Derby (DRAFT) - 4 Face 4 - Don Veino 20170823 (updated > description 20180817) > > [starts in lines/4, so G1, L1, G2, L2] > > A1 Give & Take up/down to Gents (opposites Swing) [ends in line/4 facing > up/down: G1, OpL2, G2, OpL1] > > A2 "Crazy Eights" [Fig 8 in current lines/4 done a la a Mad Robin - all > trace path of a figure 8, equidistant rel. to Partner, whom you face > up/down in the other line/4]: > (3,1 or 4) Mad Robin CW 1/2x around opposite N you swung [G thru center > first], OpL1 pass in front of G1 in middle to swap ends [to OpL2, OpL1, G1, > G2] > (3,1 or 4) All Pass Same Role Trail Buddy in Fig 8 arc (same arc, but > opposite dir.) to trade places [G1 and OpL1 take outside path - "insides > out"], OpL2 pass in front of G2 in middle to swap ends [to OpL1, G2, OpL2, > G1] > (3,1 or 4) Mad Robin CCW 1/2x around opposite N [G thru center first], > OpL1 pass in front of G1 in middle to swap ends [to G2, G1, OpL1, OpL2] > (3,1 or 4) All Pass Same Role Trail Buddy in Fig 8 arc (same arc, opposite > dir.) to trade places [G1 and OpL1 take outside path - "insides out"], OpL2 > pass in front of G2 in middle to swap ends [to end in same positions as > start of A2: G1, OpL2, G2, OpL1] > > B1 w/Opposites Circle/4 Left 3/4x to (face & Pass Partner Right to start) > Weave the Ring/8 1/2x > > B2 Partner Balance (or Gypsy) and Swing, face progression > > BTW, it was this dance idea that fed what became another related dance on > my site, Wild Mouse: http://veino.com/blog/?p=1879 . Neither of these > have I dared to attempt to date. > > _______________________________________________ > List Name: Callers mailing list > List Address: Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ > > [View Less]

6 years, 7 months

[Callers] Demolition Derby, a 4 Face 4 of dubious do-ability?

by Don Veino

Earlier today, I resurrected a draft dance from (almost exactly) this time last year which I'd put aside as probably being too crazy. In looking at it again, I started wondering if it is... too crazy... and wrote up a more specific description to get it across to others. The magnet people show me it works, but they don't say much about how it felt. :-) As I'm still up due to the caffeine I drank to drive home after a gig tonight, I thought I'd type this up and throw it out there for input. Is … [View More]

6 years, 7 months

Re: [Callers] 2 new contra dance compositions

by Mary Collins

Lol Lisa...agreed need that bit bnb of id anchor there. Perry love the real dance and will add both to my dance lists! Thanks,! On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 5:23 PM Lisa Sieverts via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Andy, thanks for emphasizing the "ID your Shadow" and that you include the > clue about which shadow. > > It's a pet peeve how many callers will call a shadow dance and never > identity the shadow. It gives me the distinct impression that they … [View More]don't > even know they are calling a dance that has a shadow. Larry Jennings would > be rolling over in his grave if he knew there were callers doing such > things! :-) > > Best, > Lisa > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Andy Shore via Callers < > callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> Both of these have been road tested on tour with Polaris. >> >> >> *Serving REELness* >> >> Andy Shore >> >> Type: Contra >> >> Formation: Duple-Improper >> >> Level: Intermediate >> >> >> A1 ----------- >> >> (16) Neighbor balance and swing >> >> A2 ----------- >> >> (8) Revolving Door - Ladies in center by the right but** >> >> (8) 1/2 Hey, pass partner by left >> >> B1 ----------- >> >> (16) Partner balance and swing >> >> B2 ----------- >> >> (8) Circle Left 3/4 and pass through along the set >> >> (8) [Next] Neighbor Do-si-do >> >> >> Notes: **release revolving door a little early so that Gents are in the >> opposite Lady’s spot & have time to turn toward their right (tight loop) to >> come in for the left shoulder pass >> >> >> I'd introduce Revolving Doors with a simpler dance that goes into a >> Swing. E.g., the RD variation of Bronwyn Wood's "The Missing Piece" >> >> >> >> The world premiere with walk thru & dance was captured on video by Doug >> Plummer here: https://youtu.be/uAZCZzm1tI8 >> Not mentioned in that debut was the early release of the Gents from >> Revolving Door and their tight loop to the right >> >> The title comes from the FX TV show "Pose". >> >> >> >> *Alpha Ursae Minoris* >> >> Andy Shore >> >> Type: Contra >> >> Formation: Becket-CCW [no circle] >> >> Level: Advanced (Weekend/Challenging level) >> >> >> * ID shadow beyond partner in becket >> >> A1 ----------- >> >> (8) Promenade across the Set (J hook to progress) >> >> (8) Mad Robin - ladies in front >> >> A2 ----------- >> >> (8) Neighbor RH Across - Balance & Box the Gnat (don't let go) >> >> (8) with N & Shadow, Square Thru 4 (no balances) - make the 4th hand an >> Allemande Left 1/2 w/ Shadow >> >> [to long waves with Gents facing OUT, partner in RH, shadow in LH] >> >> B1 ----------- >> >> (4,4) Balance the Wave, Box Circulate >> >> (8) Neighbor swing >> >> B2 ----------- >> >> (4,2) [1/4 ricochet hey] Gents go in and push back on diagonal, Ladies >> Cross passing Left >> >> (10) Swing Partner >> >> >> Notes: ** when out with partner, cross over & be ready for Balance & Box >> the Gnat to be there for Square thru with Shadow & P >> >> >> Take time to ID N & Shadow for square thru = the ONLY 2 people you >> touch! This is outside your minor set! >> >> >> This is a high piece count dance with little chance for recovery. *Not >> for the faint of heart! *Probably should introduce figures in other >> dances first - Mad Robin, Square Thru, ricochet hey, Box Circulate >> >> >> Named after Polaris (the band) who helped me finalize this dance. Alpha >> Ursae Minoris is another name for Polaris, the pole star. >> >> >> >> Enjoy! >> >> /Andy Shore >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List Name: Callers mailing list >> List Address: Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ >> >> > > > -- > > Lisa > lisa(a)lisasieverts.com > 603-762-0235 > _______________________________________________ > List Name: Callers mailing list > List Address: Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ > [View Less]

6 years, 7 months

Re: [Callers] 2 new contra dance compositions

by Amy Wimmer

It was a fun dance, and Doug did a great job with the video, as always. On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:49 PM, Andy Shore via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Both of these have been road tested on tour with Polaris. > > > *Serving REELness* > > Andy Shore > > Type: Contra > > Formation: Duple-Improper > > Level: Intermediate > > > A1 ----------- > > (16) Neighbor balance and swing > > A2 ----------- > > (8) … [View More]Revolving Door - Ladies in center by the right but** > > (8) 1/2 Hey, pass partner by left > > B1 ----------- > > (16) Partner balance and swing > > B2 ----------- > > (8) Circle Left 3/4 and pass through along the set > > (8) [Next] Neighbor Do-si-do > > > Notes: **release revolving door a little early so that Gents are in the > opposite Lady’s spot & have time to turn toward their right (tight loop) to > come in for the left shoulder pass > > > I'd introduce Revolving Doors with a simpler dance that goes into a Swing. > E.g., the RD variation of Bronwyn Wood's "The Missing Piece" > > > > The world premiere with walk thru & dance was captured on video by Doug > Plummer here: https://youtu.be/uAZCZzm1tI8 > Not mentioned in that debut was the early release of the Gents from > Revolving Door and their tight loop to the right > > The title comes from the FX TV show "Pose". > > > > *Alpha Ursae Minoris* > > Andy Shore > > Type: Contra > > Formation: Becket-CCW [no circle] > > Level: Advanced (Weekend/Challenging level) > > > * ID shadow beyond partner in becket > > A1 ----------- > > (8) Promenade across the Set (J hook to progress) > > (8) Mad Robin - ladies in front > > A2 ----------- > > (8) Neighbor RH Across - Balance & Box the Gnat (don't let go) > > (8) with N & Shadow, Square Thru 4 (no balances) - make the 4th hand an > Allemande Left 1/2 w/ Shadow > > [to long waves with Gents facing OUT, partner in RH, shadow in LH] > > B1 ----------- > > (4,4) Balance the Wave, Box Circulate > > (8) Neighbor swing > > B2 ----------- > > (4,2) [1/4 ricochet hey] Gents go in and push back on diagonal, Ladies > Cross passing Left > > (10) Swing Partner > > > Notes: ** when out with partner, cross over & be ready for Balance & Box > the Gnat to be there for Square thru with Shadow & P > > > Take time to ID N & Shadow for square thru = the ONLY 2 people you touch! > This is outside your minor set! > > > This is a high piece count dance with little chance for recovery. *Not > for the faint of heart! *Probably should introduce figures in other > dances first - Mad Robin, Square Thru, ricochet hey, Box Circulate > > > Named after Polaris (the band) who helped me finalize this dance. Alpha > Ursae Minoris is another name for Polaris, the pole star. > > > > Enjoy! > > /Andy Shore > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List Name: Callers mailing list > List Address: Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ > > [View Less]

6 years, 7 months

Re: [Callers] 2 new contra dance compositions

by Isaac Banner

Hey Andy, I think I still stand by my preference for the hey to go by the other shoulder with the ladies dancing straight forward, rather than weaving, especially having danced both roles for your dance the two nights you called it up in Seattle. Here's the dance I mentioned, as well, with my take on the revolve-to-hey figure: https://contradb.com/dances/403 Take care, Isaac On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 1:50 PM Andy Shore via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Both of … [View More]these have been road tested on tour with Polaris. > > > *Serving REELness* > > Andy Shore > > Type: Contra > > Formation: Duple-Improper > > Level: Intermediate > > > A1 ----------- > > (16) Neighbor balance and swing > > A2 ----------- > > (8) Revolving Door - Ladies in center by the right but** > > (8) 1/2 Hey, pass partner by left > > B1 ----------- > > (16) Partner balance and swing > > B2 ----------- > > (8) Circle Left 3/4 and pass through along the set > > (8) [Next] Neighbor Do-si-do > > > Notes: **release revolving door a little early so that Gents are in the > opposite Lady’s spot & have time to turn toward their right (tight loop) to > come in for the left shoulder pass > > > I'd introduce Revolving Doors with a simpler dance that goes into a Swing. > E.g., the RD variation of Bronwyn Wood's "The Missing Piece" > > > > The world premiere with walk thru & dance was captured on video by Doug > Plummer here: https://youtu.be/uAZCZzm1tI8 > Not mentioned in that debut was the early release of the Gents from > Revolving Door and their tight loop to the right > > The title comes from the FX TV show "Pose". > > > > *Alpha Ursae Minoris* > > Andy Shore > > Type: Contra > > Formation: Becket-CCW [no circle] > > Level: Advanced (Weekend/Challenging level) > > > * ID shadow beyond partner in becket > > A1 ----------- > > (8) Promenade across the Set (J hook to progress) > > (8) Mad Robin - ladies in front > > A2 ----------- > > (8) Neighbor RH Across - Balance & Box the Gnat (don't let go) > > (8) with N & Shadow, Square Thru 4 (no balances) - make the 4th hand an > Allemande Left 1/2 w/ Shadow > > [to long waves with Gents facing OUT, partner in RH, shadow in LH] > > B1 ----------- > > (4,4) Balance the Wave, Box Circulate > > (8) Neighbor swing > > B2 ----------- > > (4,2) [1/4 ricochet hey] Gents go in and push back on diagonal, Ladies > Cross passing Left > > (10) Swing Partner > > > Notes: ** when out with partner, cross over & be ready for Balance & Box > the Gnat to be there for Square thru with Shadow & P > > > Take time to ID N & Shadow for square thru = the ONLY 2 people you touch! > This is outside your minor set! > > > This is a high piece count dance with little chance for recovery. *Not > for the faint of heart! *Probably should introduce figures in other > dances first - Mad Robin, Square Thru, ricochet hey, Box Circulate > > > Named after Polaris (the band) who helped me finalize this dance. Alpha > Ursae Minoris is another name for Polaris, the pole star. > > > > Enjoy! > > /Andy Shore > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List Name: Callers mailing list > List Address: Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ > [View Less]

6 years, 7 months

Re: [Callers] 2 new contra dance compositions

by Lisa Sieverts

Andy, thanks for emphasizing the "ID your Shadow" and that you include the clue about which shadow. It's a pet peeve how many callers will call a shadow dance and never identity the shadow. It gives me the distinct impression that they don't even know they are calling a dance that has a shadow. Larry Jennings would be rolling over in his grave if he knew there were callers doing such things! :-) Best, Lisa On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Andy Shore via Callers < callers(a)lists.… [View More]sharedweight.net> wrote: > Both of these have been road tested on tour with Polaris. > > > *Serving REELness* > > Andy Shore > > Type: Contra > > Formation: Duple-Improper > > Level: Intermediate > > > A1 ----------- > > (16) Neighbor balance and swing > > A2 ----------- > > (8) Revolving Door - Ladies in center by the right but** > > (8) 1/2 Hey, pass partner by left > > B1 ----------- > > (16) Partner balance and swing > > B2 ----------- > > (8) Circle Left 3/4 and pass through along the set > > (8) [Next] Neighbor Do-si-do > > > Notes: **release revolving door a little early so that Gents are in the > opposite Lady’s spot & have time to turn toward their right (tight loop) to > come in for the left shoulder pass > > > I'd introduce Revolving Doors with a simpler dance that goes into a Swing. > E.g., the RD variation of Bronwyn Wood's "The Missing Piece" > > > > The world premiere with walk thru & dance was captured on video by Doug > Plummer here: https://youtu.be/uAZCZzm1tI8 > Not mentioned in that debut was the early release of the Gents from > Revolving Door and their tight loop to the right > > The title comes from the FX TV show "Pose". > > > > *Alpha Ursae Minoris* > > Andy Shore > > Type: Contra > > Formation: Becket-CCW [no circle] > > Level: Advanced (Weekend/Challenging level) > > > * ID shadow beyond partner in becket > > A1 ----------- > > (8) Promenade across the Set (J hook to progress) > > (8) Mad Robin - ladies in front > > A2 ----------- > > (8) Neighbor RH Across - Balance & Box the Gnat (don't let go) > > (8) with N & Shadow, Square Thru 4 (no balances) - make the 4th hand an > Allemande Left 1/2 w/ Shadow > > [to long waves with Gents facing OUT, partner in RH, shadow in LH] > > B1 ----------- > > (4,4) Balance the Wave, Box Circulate > > (8) Neighbor swing > > B2 ----------- > > (4,2) [1/4 ricochet hey] Gents go in and push back on diagonal, Ladies > Cross passing Left > > (10) Swing Partner > > > Notes: ** when out with partner, cross over & be ready for Balance & Box > the Gnat to be there for Square thru with Shadow & P > > > Take time to ID N & Shadow for square thru = the ONLY 2 people you touch! > This is outside your minor set! > > > This is a high piece count dance with little chance for recovery. *Not > for the faint of heart! *Probably should introduce figures in other > dances first - Mad Robin, Square Thru, ricochet hey, Box Circulate > > > Named after Polaris (the band) who helped me finalize this dance. Alpha > Ursae Minoris is another name for Polaris, the pole star. > > > > Enjoy! > > /Andy Shore > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List Name: Callers mailing list > List Address: Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ > > -- Lisa lisa(a)lisasieverts.com 603-762-0235 [View Less]

6 years, 7 months

[Callers] 2 new contra dance compositions

by Andy Shore

Both of these have been road tested on tour with Polaris. *Serving REELness* Andy Shore Type: Contra Formation: Duple-Improper Level: Intermediate A1 ----------- (16) Neighbor balance and swing A2 ----------- (8) Revolving Door - Ladies in center by the right but** (8) 1/2 Hey, pass partner by left B1 ----------- (16) Partner balance and swing B2 ----------- (8) Circle Left 3/4 and pass through along the set (8) [Next] Neighbor Do-si-do Notes: **release revolving door a … [View More]

6 years, 7 months

Re: [Callers] Barn Weddings are a thing now

by John Sweeney

Hi Luke, I call for two or three weddings a year. There are as many non-weddings as weddings in barns. Some of the barns are terrible! The weddings tend to be in the better quality barns. I think a number of old barns have been refurbished to make bring them up to wedding/conference standard. I think those refurbishments are the reason more weddings are held in barns. The number of brides who want a barn dance has probably remained unchanged.… [View More]

6 years, 7 months

Re: [Callers] New 4x4 composition with a tunnel, and related questions

by Dale Wilson

I called this sunday to a room full of experienced dancers. The feedback was positive. It's not something I will call often, but I plan to keep it as a "novelty" dance for the right circumstances. Dale On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 1:14 PM Luke Donforth via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > In honor of John calling it before I had a chance to test it (and after > checking in with him), I'm going to call this "The Brave Sir Sweeney". > > Hope other folks get … [View More]to enjoy it. > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 6:51 PM, John Sweeney via Callers < > callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> Hi Luke, >> >> I called it tonight. We had low numbers so I tested it >> during the interval with some volunteers as a Four Couple Dance. At the >> end of the Partner Swing we just faced back to the same line. Or changed >> it from Head Lines to Side Lines if we wanted different people to go >> through the arches. >> >> >> >> I wanted all the Box the Gnats at the same time, so I did >> Balance & Box the Gnat. They may have been very slightly late getting >> through the tunnel, so, to avoid the possibility of the Balance being late >> or random, I changed the Balance & Swing to Dosido & Swing which worked >> fine. >> >> >> >> I indicated who should go through the tunnel first via a >> geographic reference: pick a feature of the room and let people know that >> you are going to use it. I called “Window People Tunnel” – that worked >> well. >> >> >> >> We had lots of room, so the first swing tended to end up >> with the set as a square, which meant that the four steps into the middle >> were fine, but with less room the “Head Couples” might not have very far to >> travel, but I don’t think it would be a problem. >> >> >> >> The dancers said that they liked it. I will definitely use >> it again. >> >> >> >> Does it have a name? >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> Happy dancing, >> >> John >> >> >> >> John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & >> 07802 940 574 >> >> http://www.modernjive.com for Modern Jive Events >> & DVDs >> >> http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Callers <callers-bounces(a)lists.sharedweight.net> *On Behalf Of *Luke >> Donforth via Callers >> *Sent:* 02 August 2018 19:36 >> *To:* callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> *Subject:* [Callers] New 4x4 composition with a tunnel, and related >> questions >> >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> >> >> I've had an idea for a 4 facing 4 dance rattling around, and it seems >> unlikely I'll have enough dancers to house-party it anytime soon, so I'd >> appreciate feedback on an untested dance. >> >> >> >> 4 facing 4 contra >> >> A1 >> >> (4) Lines of 4 go forward, take right hand with the one in front of you >> >> (4) box the gnat, keep and lift right hand to make a tunnel >> >> (4) couple at stage right side of line of couples duck through to far side >> >> (4) couple that was at stage left side of line of couples duck through to >> far side >> >> A2 >> >> (16) Initial corner balance and swing >> >> (end couples, it's the one they tunneled with, middle folks it's their >> trail buddy) >> >> B1 >> >> (4) All 8 go into the middle >> >> (4) On the way out, gents roll the one they swung with away with a half >> sashay >> >> (8) Gents right hand star ~1x (ladies adjust position as needed, stepping >> a little to left) >> >> B2 >> >> (16) Partner balance and swing, end facing new couple >> >> >> >> Questions for those so inclined: >> >> Would you be interested in dancing and/or calling this dance? Why, or why >> not? >> >> >> >> The inspiration for the tunnel came from "plow the row", a (to my >> knowledge) traditional square (at least, it's traditional enough to have >> lots of variations). Anyone know of a tunnel figure in a 4x4 contra? >> >> >> >> In the B1, I wrote it as the gents roll the ladies, and the gents star. >> It could instead be the ladies roll the gents and ladies star. Preferences? >> >> >> >> There are two places where what would normally be "balance+move" have >> been replaced with "in to the middle+move"; is the four steps forward >> before the box the gnat and the roll away going to throw folks? >> >> >> >> How would you prompt the couples on the end going through the tunnel so >> that there's only one couple in the tunnel at a time? Or would you prompt >> it as both going through and let them figure it out inside the tunnel? >> >> >> >> Thanks for feedback. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Luke Donforth >> Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List Name: Callers mailing list >> List Address: Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ >> >> > > > -- > Luke Donforth > Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com> > _______________________________________________ > List Name: Callers mailing list > List Address: Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ > -- There are only two hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors. [View Less]

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