Hi Ric,
A Chevron is already defined as:
First Corners cross diagonally by the right shoulder, turn left 1/4 to face
out, then back up across the set to the opposite place WHILE Second Corners
wait, then cast into their neighbour's place
Is your Chevron something that has been used before to mean what you
mean?
I call your move, "balance the ring in-and-out while rotating the
ring 1 place CCW (i.e. to the R)", Balance the Ring, Spin the Ring.
Happy dancing,
John
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HI Luke,
You didn’t understand it cuz I miscopied it. 😊
The B2 is actually
B2 1-4 Neighbors allemande R 1-1/2 (W end turning R to face into the set)
5-6 Chevron: balance the ring in-and-out while rotating the ring 1 place CCW (i.e. to the R)
7-8 Petronella with an extra half-turn to face new neighbors
I called it again last night and it went quite well. A few folk said they really liked the “petronella one-and-a-half” at the end. Who knew? 😉
Thanx, Ric
From: Luke Donforth [mailto:luke.donev@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 7:42 AM
To: Ric Goldman - Letsdance <letsdance(a)rgoldman.org>
Cc: Bob Isaacs <isaacsbob(a)hotmail.com>; Shared Weight <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
Subject: Re: [Callers] New Dance?
Bob, did you put a name on your version?
Ric, I admit to being confused by your dance. Are you putting an allemande once and a half AND two full petronella in the B2? Normally I'd give 8 counts to each petronella balance and move; so two fill out one B. Does your dance Fried Rice perhaps not have the long lines?
(yes, I know this was a while ago; digging through a back-log)
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 2:11 AM, Ric Goldman - Letsdance via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net <mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net> > wrote:
Hi Bob,
It’s almost the same as my dance Fried Rice, written in 2012 in a Chinese restaurant while waiting for dinner. The only difference is the B2 5-8:
Fried Rice, duple improper
A1 1-8 Neighbors balance + swing
A2 1-4 Gents allemande L 1-1/2
5-8 Partners swing
B1 1-4 Long lines fwd & back
5-8 Circle L 3/4
B2 1-4 Neighbors allemande R 1-1/2
5-6 Balance the ring, petronella
7-8 Balance the ring, petronella with an extra half-turn to face new neighbors
Hope this helps.
Thanx, Ric Goldman
From: Callers [mailto:callers-bounces@lists.sharedweight.net <mailto:callers-bounces@lists.sharedweight.net> ] On Behalf Of Bob Isaacs via Callers
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:12 PM
To: Shared Weight <callers(a)sharedweight.net <mailto:callers@sharedweight.net> >
Subject: [Callers] New Dance?
Hive Mind:
I wrote the following solid little contra on a recent flight when I had too much time on my hands, and it went well on its initial test. It didn't show up in my database, but do you know if it has been written previously?
Improper
A1. Neighbor balance, swing
A2. Gents allemande L 1 1/2, partner swing
B1. Long lines, circle L ¾
B2. Neighbor allemande R 1 1/2, 1/2 hey (GL, PR, LL, -)
Bob
Luke Donforth
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Thanks Amy. Family Contra is my favorite go-to "real" contra dance for novices. I recently tried following it with Broken Sixpence but it fell apart. Good plan to lead everyone into a circle. I've also found leading people into a snake works well too.
Cheers!
Vicki
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> On Aug 2, 2017, at 12:25 AM, Amy Wimmer via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> HA! My set list was "Family Contra" by Sherry Nevins, followed by an attempt at "Reel Easy" by Cary Ravitz. That one fell apart and I turned it into a barn dance: circle left, circle right, in to the center, back out, swing your partner, repeat. Then it was quiet hour and we had to stop. We had very little time to begin with, but it ended up being just enough. That was also good because my voice was giving out, shouting over the chatter.
>
> -Amy
>
>> On Aug 1, 2017 5:17 PM, "Claire Takemori via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>> Hi Amy,
>> Would you be willing to share your program set list for the Cows/Chickens dance?
>> I’m curious what kind of dances went so well.
>>
>> Thanks !
>> Claire Takemori (Campbell CA)
>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Amy Wimmer via Callers
>>> <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I recently had the opportunity to call a contra to a group of rank
>>> beginners
>>>> in a difficult situation: outdoors, on sloping concrete, without
>>>> amplification for either myself or the band, to people not expecting a
>>>> dance, with a band mostly unfamiliar with either contra or fiddle tunes,
>>> who
>>>> had no opportunity to practice or choose tunes. It was a staff party
>>> with a
>>>> barnyard theme. Granted, this particular good of people is accustomed to
>>>> being spontaneous and silly at times, most are in their 20's, and it's a
>>>> liberal, accepting group.
>>>>
>>>> The organizers wanted to use the terms "cows" and "chickens" instead of
>>> any
>>>> other usual terms for dancers. When they arrived at the party each person
>>>> chose a name tag with either a cow or a chicken on it. They didn't know
>>> it,
>>>> but this determined which role they'd play in the dance. I arbitrarily
>>> chose
>>>> to "put the chicken on the right, because the chicken is always right."
>>> (I
>>>> keep chickens, and they ARE always right)
>>>>
>>>> There was not time for much of a lesson, either. It'd have been much
>>> easier
>>>> if everyone had joined the dance at the beginning. All said, just about
>>>> everyone had a really great time, myself included. The band was hyped up
>>> to
>>>> try another dance evening later in the week, though that never
>>> materialized.
>>>>
>>>> I never mentioned gender in any way. That part just seemed to not matter.
>>>> They were dancing with their friends. It didn't matter that they weren't
>>>> experts or even very good.
>>>>
>>>> I was heartened and encouraged to try something like this again, perhaps
>>>> with more widely used dancer terms.
>>>>
>>>> -Amy
>>
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Hi Amy,
Would you be willing to share your program set list for the Cows/Chickens dance?
I’m curious what kind of dances went so well.
Thanks !
Claire Takemori (Campbell CA)
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Amy Wimmer via Callers
> <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net <mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I recently had the opportunity to call a contra to a group of rank
> beginners
>> in a difficult situation: outdoors, on sloping concrete, without
>> amplification for either myself or the band, to people not expecting a
>> dance, with a band mostly unfamiliar with either contra or fiddle tunes,
> who
>> had no opportunity to practice or choose tunes. It was a staff party
> with a
>> barnyard theme. Granted, this particular good of people is accustomed to
>> being spontaneous and silly at times, most are in their 20's, and it's a
>> liberal, accepting group.
>>
>> The organizers wanted to use the terms "cows" and "chickens" instead of
> any
>> other usual terms for dancers. When they arrived at the party each person
>> chose a name tag with either a cow or a chicken on it. They didn't know
> it,
>> but this determined which role they'd play in the dance. I arbitrarily
> chose
>> to "put the chicken on the right, because the chicken is always right."
> (I
>> keep chickens, and they ARE always right)
>>
>> There was not time for much of a lesson, either. It'd have been much
> easier
>> if everyone had joined the dance at the beginning. All said, just about
>> everyone had a really great time, myself included. The band was hyped up
> to
>> try another dance evening later in the week, though that never
> materialized.
>>
>> I never mentioned gender in any way. That part just seemed to not matter.
>> They were dancing with their friends. It didn't matter that they weren't
>> experts or even very good.
>>
>> I was heartened and encouraged to try something like this again, perhaps
>> with more widely used dancer terms.
>>
>> -Amy
Amy Wimmer wrote:
<< I recently had the opportunity to call a contra to a group of rank beginners in a difficult situation: outdoors, on sloping concrete, without amplification for either myself or the band, to people not expecting a dance, with a band mostly unfamiliar with either contra or fiddle tunes, who had no opportunity to practice or choose tunes. >>
Congratulations on getting through an event with *multiple* challenges and achieving a result that was heartening and encouraging.
<< The organizers wanted to use the terms "cows" and "chickens" instead of any other usual terms for dancers. When they arrived at the party each person chose a name tag with either a cow or a chicken on it. They didn't know it, but this determined which role they'd play in the dance. I arbitrarily chose to "put the chicken on the right, because the chicken is always right." (I keep chickens, and they ARE always right) >>
I’ve used “farmers” and “cowhands” in similar situations; the faRmeRs are on the Right. But I like your chicken mnemonic.
<< There was not time for much of a lesson, either. It'd have been much easier if everyone had joined the dance at the beginning. >>
Lesson? I never use a lesson with non-dancers. Each dance is complete in itself. But then I never use duple contras at a gig like this. Is that what you used? (Depending on the group, it’s perfectly possible to teach a duple. But almost always, the teach ends up being longer than the dance. I prefer dances I can teach in 60 to 90 seconds.)
Tony Parkes
Billerica, Mass.
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New book! Square Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century
(to be published real soon)
Amy,
Nice work. This sort of occasion is why I have some dances in my repertoire
that don't have roles of any type, but the cows/chickens approach is clever
and creative.
Jerome
On Monday, July 31, 2017, Cara Sawyer via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> This is THE BEST email strain ever.
>
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Donald Perley via Callers <
> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net');>> wrote:
>
>> I think the tags were key. My worst experiences were when gender is
>> not mentioned, and people have
>> no reminder of which role they are dancing.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Amy Wimmer via Callers
>> <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net');>> wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I recently had the opportunity to call a contra to a group of rank
>> beginners
>> > in a difficult situation: outdoors, on sloping concrete, without
>> > amplification for either myself or the band, to people not expecting a
>> > dance, with a band mostly unfamiliar with either contra or fiddle
>> tunes, who
>> > had no opportunity to practice or choose tunes. It was a staff party
>> with a
>> > barnyard theme. Granted, this particular good of people is accustomed to
>> > being spontaneous and silly at times, most are in their 20's, and it's a
>> > liberal, accepting group.
>> >
>> > The organizers wanted to use the terms "cows" and "chickens" instead of
>> any
>> > other usual terms for dancers. When they arrived at the party each
>> person
>> > chose a name tag with either a cow or a chicken on it. They didn't know
>> it,
>> > but this determined which role they'd play in the dance. I arbitrarily
>> chose
>> > to "put the chicken on the right, because the chicken is always right."
>> (I
>> > keep chickens, and they ARE always right)
>> >
>> > There was not time for much of a lesson, either. It'd have been much
>> easier
>> > if everyone had joined the dance at the beginning. All said, just about
>> > everyone had a really great time, myself included. The band was hyped
>> up to
>> > try another dance evening later in the week, though that never
>> materialized.
>> >
>> > I never mentioned gender in any way. That part just seemed to not
>> matter.
>> > They were dancing with their friends. It didn't matter that they weren't
>> > experts or even very good.
>> >
>> > I was heartened and encouraged to try something like this again, perhaps
>> > with more widely used dancer terms.
>> >
>> > -Amy
>> >
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Folks,
When I sent out my request back in May soliciting lists of
recommended tunes for patter squares, I wrote:
> ... If you got this query via a mailing list, please send
> tune lists directly to me and *not* to the entire mailing list.
> .., I'm trying to see which tunes get mentioned
> *independently* by many recommenders, so I don't want the lists
> anyone sends me to be influenced one way or another by whatever
> suggestions other people have already sent. ...
>
> I plan to gather recommendations for the next couple months and
> to post a summary some time in July.
Now it's the end of July, and I find myself in a bit of a
quandary, since I haven't gathered nearly as much data as I'd
hoped, and I'd prefer not to have my results so far circulating
around and possibly biasing anyone else who might yet supply
input. On the other hand, I don't want to renege on providing
a summary. So what I'm going to do is take some more time
(possibly several months, at the rate things are going). But
meanwhile if anyone's impatient for a summary, you can contact
me off-list (Jim dot Saxe at-sign gmail dot com), and I'll send
a brief synopsis of what I've gathered as of today, July 31.
(Note: This will only include information from recent informants
and a few other recent sources, not all the stuff I'm still
working on from old books, articles, record catalogs, etc.)
Meanwhile thanks to the following persons who have supplied tune
lists in response either to my queries on trad-dance-callers and
the SharedWeight or (more commonly) to other requests either by
email or in person: T-Claw supplied a list of tunes that he and
other participants shared at a session called "List of Favorite
Square Dance Tunes" at the 2015 Dare To Be Square Weekend in
Nashville. Bob Dalsemer supplied a short list of tunes that
he had gathered from three Brasstown area fiddlers. He also
supplied a tune list from an unpublished manuscript by the late
D. B. Hendrix with more tunes than the ones listed in his book
_Smoky Mountain Square Dances_ (but I'm not including that list
in my "recent sources" category). I also got tune lists from
Erik Hoffman, Bill Litchman, Tony Mates, Jim McKinney, David
Millstone, Tony Parkes, Jordan Ruyle, Don Stratton, and Vivian
Williams. Thanks, all. I also got at least one well-intentioned
reply that seemed so far off target from what I requested that I
couldn't use it (thanks all the same if you know who you are).
--Jim
