I prefer circles to the right after chains, from both positions. Still,
I'll echo those who question the circle right into swing, although my
suggested solution is different:
Replace the neighbor swing with a neighbor two-hand turn counter clockwise
twice around.
(I know you enjoy a good two-hand turn, Jerome ^_^)
— Chet Gray
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On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:58 PM, Jerome Grisanti via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> Rich, I had considered a circle left, and chose the circle right for
> similar reasons as Joy as articulated. I do want to test this, particularly
> asking people dancing the ladies role about the flow and/or momentum shift
> they experience.
>
> Joy, yes, I would certainly be sure to make it clear in teaching that it's
> the NEXT neighbor for the roll away. Thanks for your encouragement of a
> circle right, I'll let the list know how dancers respond.
>
> --Jerome
>
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>
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> power and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
>
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Joy Greenwolfe via Callers <
> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Sorry if this has already been pointed out.
>>
>> The advantage of circling right before the Neighbor swing in this dance
>> is that the Ladies lead in the circle in front of the person they will be
>> swinging, which is always a smoother transition than the Gents leading a
>> circle into a swing.
>>
>> The circle right also adds a distinctive flavor to the dance that might
>> otherwise look a little generic.
>>
>> Another detail I noticed is that in the A1, it would be helpful for
>> clarity’s sake to specify that the gents roll away their *new* Neighbor,
>> not the one they just swung.
>>
>> Joy Greenwolfe
>> Durham, NC
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Rich Goss via Callers <
>> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> You could just as easily circle Left 1x in B2.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers <
>> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>> I question the flow of a circle R into a swing. But I don't recognize
>> the sequence.
>> Cheers,
>> Andrea
>>
>> Sent from my external brain
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Jerome Grisanti via Callers <
>> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>
>> I wonder if this sequence has already been written (and titled):
>>
>> Trip to Kentucky
>> Improper contra
>> Jerome Grisanti (unless prior claim exists)
>>
>> A1: Long lines go forward, roll away as you go back (women moving from
>> left to right in front of their neighbors).
>> Men allemande left 1.5.
>>
>> A2: Partner B & S.
>>
>> B1: Right & Left Thru, Ladies chain.
>>
>> B2: Circle RIGHT 1x, Neighbors swing.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jerome
>>
>>
>>
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>> power and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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Hi everyone,
I have undertaken to teach some modern square dancers how to contra dance,
and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with this and has any dances to
recommend? I'm a square dancer myself but most of my contra repertoire is
for modern contra dancers- 2 swings, lots of Balance and swing, etc. I'd
like more dances with MWSD moves in them and possibly without any, or only
1, swing, and they don't need to have a partner swing. The dancers I am
teaching are all either plus or advanced, so they will tire pretty quickly
of the usual simple glossary contras I would normally do in a teaching
situation. They can do the moves; it's the formation that is new to them.
Thanks,
Judy
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Hi everyone,
Thank you for all your suggestions and helpful tips. Just to emphasize-I am
BOTH a square dancer AND a contra dancer, but so far only a contra caller. I
love both! For different reasons.
I've undertaken to call some contras for a local group. Our caller, who has
been calling for over 50 years-he started when he was 9 years old-has never
called contras and I have challenged him to start. He's accepted that
challenge but says he's never called a program he hasn't danced. Since
contra dance around here-southern Ontario-pretty much shuts down for the
summer I'm filling a gap until the fall. I don't expect to make contra
dancers of them, although if some of them get bitten by the bug.
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> You could just as easily circle Left 1x in B2.
>
>
>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>> I question the flow of a circle R into a swing. But I don't recognize the sequence.
>> Cheers,
>> Andrea
>>
>> Sent from my external brain
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Jerome Grisanti via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder if this sequence has already been written (and titled):
>>>
>>> Trip to Kentucky
>>> Improper contra
>>> Jerome Grisanti (unless prior claim exists)
>>>
>>> A1: Long lines go forward, roll away as you go back (women moving from left to right in front of their neighbors).
>>> Men allemande left 1.5.
>>>
>>> A2: Partner B & S.
>>>
>>> B1: Right & Left Thru, Ladies chain.
>>>
>>> B2: Circle RIGHT 1x, Neighbors swing.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jerome
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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Mark, Andrea,
I too wondered about circle right to a swing, I'll try to get some feedback
from the floor.
As Mark suggests ladies turn back to the B2 swing might work, but in that
case I might as well replace the circle with a star left. A variation worth
trying.
Thanks,
Jerome
On Tuesday, July 18, 2017, Mark Hillegonds <mark.hillegonds(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi, Jerome,
>
> My comments and question are based on my interpretation of the dance that
> the progression occurs in A1, when the Gent rolls the NEXT neighbor from L
> to R and that the neighbor swing in B2 is with this same (now current)
> Neighbor. With that...
>
> It seems to me that the Circle R to Neighbor swing in B2 might be a bit
> awkward. The person dancing the Ladies role in particular has quite a
> change in momentum. Perhaps the Lady can roll out over her right shoulder
> into the swing?
>
> If you have tried this dance with people and up to speed, what sort of
> feedback did you get on that transition?
>
> Mark
>
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Jerome Grisanti via Callers <
> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net');>> wrote:
>
>>
>>>>
>> I wonder if this sequence has already been written (and titled):
>>
>> Trip to Kentucky
>> Improper contra
>> Jerome Grisanti (unless prior claim exists)
>>
>> A1: Long lines go forward, roll away as you go back (women moving from
>> left to right in front of their neighbors).
>> Men allemande left 1.5.
>>
>> A2: Partner B & S.
>>
>> B1: Right & Left Thru, Ladies chain.
>>
>> B2: Circle RIGHT 1x, Neighbors swing.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jerome
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.jeromegrisanti.com
>>
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>> power and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
>>
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I question the flow of a circle R into a swing. But I don't recognize the sequence.
Cheers,
Andrea
Sent from my external brain
On Jul 18, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Jerome Grisanti via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>>
>
> I wonder if this sequence has already been written (and titled):
>
> Trip to Kentucky
> Improper contra
> Jerome Grisanti (unless prior claim exists)
>
> A1: Long lines go forward, roll away as you go back (women moving from left to right in front of their neighbors).
> Men allemande left 1.5.
>
> A2: Partner B & S.
>
> B1: Right & Left Thru, Ladies chain.
>
> B2: Circle RIGHT 1x, Neighbors swing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jerome
>
>
>
> --
> Jerome Grisanti
> 660-528-0858
> http://www.jeromegrisanti.com
>
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Hi, Jerome,
My comments and question are based on my interpretation of the dance that
the progression occurs in A1, when the Gent rolls the NEXT neighbor from L
to R and that the neighbor swing in B2 is with this same (now current)
Neighbor. With that...
It seems to me that the Circle R to Neighbor swing in B2 might be a bit
awkward. The person dancing the Ladies role in particular has quite a
change in momentum. Perhaps the Lady can roll out over her right shoulder
into the swing?
If you have tried this dance with people and up to speed, what sort of
feedback did you get on that transition?
Mark
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Jerome Grisanti via Callers <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>>>
> I wonder if this sequence has already been written (and titled):
>
> Trip to Kentucky
> Improper contra
> Jerome Grisanti (unless prior claim exists)
>
> A1: Long lines go forward, roll away as you go back (women moving from
> left to right in front of their neighbors).
> Men allemande left 1.5.
>
> A2: Partner B & S.
>
> B1: Right & Left Thru, Ladies chain.
>
> B2: Circle RIGHT 1x, Neighbors swing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jerome
>
>
>
> --
> Jerome Grisanti
> 660-528-0858 <(660)%20528-0858>
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>
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> power and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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>
>
>>
I wonder if this sequence has already been written (and titled):
Trip to Kentucky
Improper contra
Jerome Grisanti (unless prior claim exists)
A1: Long lines go forward, roll away as you go back (women moving from left
to right in front of their neighbors).
Men allemande left 1.5.
A2: Partner B & S.
B1: Right & Left Thru, Ladies chain.
B2: Circle RIGHT 1x, Neighbors swing.
Thanks,
Jerome
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"Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and power
and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
I don't know who the author is, but the dance's name ought to be "Chorus Jiggered" :-)
Need it be limited to 4 couples? Would an arbitrarily long line work?
\Bob
> On Jul 17, 2017, at 23:01, Jerome Grisanti via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Chet,
>
> I get it now, thanks!
>
> --Jerome
>
> Jerome Grisanti
> 660-528-0858
> http://www.jeromegrisanti.com
>
> "Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and power and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
>
>> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Chet Gray <chetgray+sharedweight(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> 4 couple longways proper (or whatever, it really doesn't matter much for this dance, only if you you care about what role your corners are). Stretch the set out in your mental picture. The contra corners pattern is Ts for everyone instead of Ys for the actives as it typically is.
>>
>> — Chet Gray
>> dance caller
>> Louisville, KY
>> (502) 419-7008
>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Jerome Grisanti via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>> Yoyo,
>>>
>>> What's the starting formation -- four couple longways proper? I'm having trouble picturing all turn contra corners but perhaps I'm missing something.
>>>
>>> --Jerome
>>>
>>> Jerome Grisanti
>>> 660-528-0858
>>> http://www.jeromegrisanti.com
>>>
>>> "Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and power and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Yoyo Zhou via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi callers,
>>>>
>>>> I've been looking for a funky dance, a variation on Chorus Jig for 4 couples, alternating, everybody turns contra corners. Does anyone know who to thank for it?
>>>>
>>>> (I remember dancing it at one of the Monte Toyon camps (Spring Fever or Queer Contra Camp) but I can't remember which! For bonus points, I'd love to figure out whom I learned it from.)
>>>>
>>>> The dance goes like this:
>>>>
>>>> A1: top couple down the outside and back
>>>> B1: top couple down the middle and back, cast off with 2s
>>>> C: all turn contra corners in the middle
>>>> (All turn partner right 3/4, 1st corner left 1, parter right 1/2, 2nd corner left 1.
>>>> It looks like a wave of 8 down the middle.)
>>>> B2: all balance and swing partner; end swing facing up (?)
>>>>
>>>> (? = Do you alternate facing up/down?)
>>>>
>>>> Then, every other time, alternate: the bottom couple goes up the set and casts off with the 3s. So the 1s and 2s just change places with each other, and the 3s and 4s change places with each other, and everyone has a turn.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Yoyo Zhou
>>>>
>>>>
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Chet,
I get it now, thanks!
--Jerome
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and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Chet Gray <chetgray+sharedweight(a)gmail.com
> wrote:
> 4 couple longways proper (or whatever, it really doesn't matter much for
> this dance, only if you you care about what role your corners are). Stretch
> the set out in your mental picture. The contra corners pattern is Ts for
> everyone instead of Ys for the actives as it typically is.
>
> — Chet Gray
> dance caller
> Louisville, KY
> (502) 419-7008 <+1-502-419-7008>
>
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Jerome Grisanti via Callers <
> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Yoyo,
>>
>> What's the starting formation -- four couple longways proper? I'm having
>> trouble picturing all turn contra corners but perhaps I'm missing something.
>>
>> --Jerome
>>
>> Jerome Grisanti
>> 660-528-0858 <(660)%20528-0858>
>> http://www.jeromegrisanti.com
>>
>> "Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and
>> power and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Yoyo Zhou via Callers <
>> callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi callers,
>>>
>>> I've been looking for a funky dance, a variation on Chorus Jig for 4
>>> couples, alternating, everybody turns contra corners. Does anyone know who
>>> to thank for it?
>>>
>>> (I remember dancing it at one of the Monte Toyon camps (Spring Fever or
>>> Queer Contra Camp) but I can't remember which! For bonus points, I'd love
>>> to figure out whom I learned it from.)
>>>
>>> The dance goes like this:
>>>
>>> A1: top couple down the outside and back
>>> B1: top couple down the middle and back, cast off with 2s
>>> C: all turn contra corners in the middle
>>> (All turn partner right 3/4, 1st corner left 1, parter right 1/2,
>>> 2nd corner left 1.
>>> It looks like a wave of 8 down the middle.)
>>> B2: all balance and swing partner; end swing facing up (?)
>>>
>>> (? = Do you alternate facing up/down?)
>>>
>>> Then, every other time, alternate: the bottom couple goes up the set and
>>> casts off with the 3s. So the 1s and 2s just change places with each other,
>>> and the 3s and 4s change places with each other, and everyone has a turn.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Yoyo Zhou
>>>
>>>
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