Import1 December 2016

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by Maia McCormick via Callers

Hi there hivemind, I'm in search of the following dances and would be grateful to anyone who can help me out: 1) Cupid's Clout (...Cupid's Cloud? Something like that? A lovely flowy dance with pousettes) 2) Square Route (petronella spin --> 3 changes of a square thru) 3) Looking for name and author of: A1: circle L 3/4 N swing A2: long lines square thru 2 B1: next N. bal & box the gnat gents allemande L 1 1/2 B2: P b&s Happy merry etc., Maia

7 years, 3 months

Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

by John Sweeney via Callers

Instead of Ladies Dosido 1 & 1/2 I always teach Ladies Dosido then Pass Through (by the Right Shoulder). That makes it clearer as to where they are heading (especially if they like spinning their Dosidos!). Happy dancing, John John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent

7 years, 3 months

Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

by James Saxe via Callers

On Dec 16, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Bill Olson wrote, regarding the dance "Three Thirty-Three [Thirty-Three]": > I personally like the original [with B2 Long Lines F&B, Ladies dosido 1.5 ] > best of all and don't really think it's hard to teach if you pay attention to telling everyone where they're going to end up after B2 (basically that the Women are crossing the set to find new Neighbors). I agree that one of the keys to teaching the do-si-so in B2 is to let people know where they're going to end up, and in particular to get the ladies to identify their next neighbors. However, once they have identified their next neighbors, there is a danger that some ladies will want to do the do-si-do with their next neighbor lady. So be sure to call their attention back to the other lady in their current foursome before you walk them through the do-si-do. Also if you use the word "diagonal" in describing the do-si-do, be sure to make it clear (in words the dancers will easily understand and at a time when you have their attention) that you're talking about a diagonal within their current foursome. Contra dancers are more accustomed to hearing the word "diagonal" used for an action involving a couple from the next foursome up or down the set. And now a word about *Fractions*: The action at the end of B2 is notated as being once and a half because it causes two ladies to exchange places (along a slight left diagonal within their foursome). But in contra dancing we more commonly use "ladies do-si-do once and a half" to describe an action that would take them (from the same starting position) to their current neighbor gent, as in this example from "Scout House Reel": A2. ... Ladies chain [across] to partner B1. Ladies do-si-so 1.5 Neighbors swing The usage in the description of "Scout House Reel" is based on an unspoken convention that when dancers start from facing couples, we often calculate the ending position of a action for the two ladies or an action for the two gents as if the two participants were starting out directly across the set from each other. While it is arguably technically more accurate to use the words "once and a half" to describe an action like the do-si-do in B2 of "Three Thirty-Three" than to use them for an action the do-si-do in the B1 of "Scout House Reel", the latter usage is certainly more common. In practice, I think that using any *other* fraction (such as 1 3/8 or 1 5/8) to describe either of those actions would be more confusing for the dancers. So the only good way to distinguish the two actions, and particularly to describe the less common one, is to give some additional information besides the nominal amount (1 1/2) of do-si-do. The obvious additional information would be who you meet next and where you meet them. * * * * * * * * * * Analogous remarks to the ones above apply for teaching the gents' allemande at the end of "Thanks to the Gene" by Tom Hinds. --Jim

7 years, 4 months

Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

by Bree Kalb via Callers

I agree with Mark! This is a fabulous dance as it is and the dosido for the women is just hard enough to be a fun challenge. (When I was a new dancer, dosido 1 1/2 was the hardest move for me to do gracefully and on time. I was so happy when I got it right!) When the caller teaches the alternate B2, I hide my disappointment, but its not as satisfying as the original. On Friday, December 16, 2016, Mark Hillegonds via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Hi, > > I have always used the original version and don't ever recall the dancers > having trouble with the DSD progression. While I respect and admire the > folks creating variants they find helpful for their needs, for me, if it > ain't broke, I'm not going to fix it. > > Also, I must say that pleased me greatly to see Maia's reference to my > home town of Ann Arbor!!! :) > > > On Dec 16, 2016 4:27 PM, "Maia McCormick via Callers" < > callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net');>> wrote: > > Fwiw, if I were to write a variation of 3-33-33 (and wanted to avoid > ladies chain/star L), I'd do a figure like in Al Olson's 'Ann Arbor Four': > long lines (8), P alle. R 3/4 (4), ladies alle. L 1/2 (4). Agreed that > ladies' allemande L out of long lines, while there's no reason it doesn't > flow, is bizarrely counterintuitive! > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Bill Olson via Callers < > callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net');>> wrote: > >> Hi Kalia, yep, I agree.. I guess I should have said more about why I >> preferred the original.. Anyway this is a great dance, a modern classic, >> and i call it often.. >> >> >> bill >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Callers <callers-bounces(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','callers-bounces(a)lists.sharedweight.net');>> >> on behalf of Kalia Kliban via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net');>> >> *Sent:* Friday, December 16, 2016 9:05 PM >> *To:* callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net');> >> *Subject:* Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson >> >> On 12/16/2016 11:48 AM, Bill Olson via Callers wrote: >> > 3-33-33 >> > >> > Steve Zakon (Duple improper) >> > A1 Balance N1, N1 pull by R, N2 pull by L , N3 Balance, box the gnat >> > A2 N3 pull by R, N2 pull by L, N1 swing >> > B1 Circle L 3/4, Partner Swing >> > B2 Long Lines F&B, Ladies dosido 1.5 >> > >> > I'm aware of a "fix" to 333 where the W DSD 1.5 at the end of B2 was >> > replaced by a W allem L 1.5.. I think I remember talking to Steve about >> > this and he referred to this as an "approved alternative" HIMSELF.. >> >> I've both danced and called this alternate ending, and that allemande L >> is pretty counterintuitive for the women. It causes some glitches as >> folks fight with their natural instinct to allemande R. It works, but >> you'll need to be really clear with the dancers that it's the >> non-obvious hand there. >> >> Kalia >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net');> >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> >> Callers Info Page - lists.sharedweight.net >> <http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net> >> lists.sharedweight.net >> This mailing list is for callers and people who want to be callers for >> Contra and Traditional Square Dance. This is a place where callers can >> support each other by ... >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net');> >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net');> > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > > > -- Bree Kalb, LCSW 301 W. Weaver St. Carrboro, NC 27510 Psychotherapy and Mindfulness Meditation Classes 919-932-6262 x216 www.thewellnessalliance.com https://www.facebook.com/carrborokorumindfulness

7 years, 4 months

Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

by Mark Hillegonds via Callers

Hi, I have always used the original version and don't ever recall the dancers having trouble with the DSD progression. While I respect and admire the folks creating variants they find helpful for their needs, for me, if it ain't broke, I'm not going to fix it. Also, I must say that pleased me greatly to see Maia's reference to my home town of Ann Arbor!!! :) On Dec 16, 2016 4:27 PM, "Maia McCormick via Callers" < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: Fwiw, if I were to write a variation of 3-33-33 (and wanted to avoid ladies chain/star L), I'd do a figure like in Al Olson's 'Ann Arbor Four': long lines (8), P alle. R 3/4 (4), ladies alle. L 1/2 (4). Agreed that ladies' allemande L out of long lines, while there's no reason it doesn't flow, is bizarrely counterintuitive! On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Bill Olson via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Hi Kalia, yep, I agree.. I guess I should have said more about why I > preferred the original.. Anyway this is a great dance, a modern classic, > and i call it often.. > > > bill > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Callers <callers-bounces(a)lists.sharedweight.net> on behalf of > Kalia Kliban via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> > *Sent:* Friday, December 16, 2016 9:05 PM > *To:* callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > *Subject:* Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson > > On 12/16/2016 11:48 AM, Bill Olson via Callers wrote: > > 3-33-33 > > > > Steve Zakon (Duple improper) > > A1 Balance N1, N1 pull by R, N2 pull by L , N3 Balance, box the gnat > > A2 N3 pull by R, N2 pull by L, N1 swing > > B1 Circle L 3/4, Partner Swing > > B2 Long Lines F&B, Ladies dosido 1.5 > > > > I'm aware of a "fix" to 333 where the W DSD 1.5 at the end of B2 was > > replaced by a W allem L 1.5.. I think I remember talking to Steve about > > this and he referred to this as an "approved alternative" HIMSELF.. > > I've both danced and called this alternate ending, and that allemande L > is pretty counterintuitive for the women. It causes some glitches as > folks fight with their natural instinct to allemande R. It works, but > you'll need to be really clear with the dancers that it's the > non-obvious hand there. > > Kalia > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > > Callers Info Page - lists.sharedweight.net > <http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net> > lists.sharedweight.net > This mailing list is for callers and people who want to be callers for > Contra and Traditional Square Dance. This is a place where callers can > support each other by ... > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > > _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

7 years, 4 months

Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

by Maia McCormick via Callers

Fwiw, if I were to write a variation of 3-33-33 (and wanted to avoid ladies chain/star L), I'd do a figure like in Al Olson's 'Ann Arbor Four': long lines (8), P alle. R 3/4 (4), ladies alle. L 1/2 (4). Agreed that ladies' allemande L out of long lines, while there's no reason it doesn't flow, is bizarrely counterintuitive! On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Bill Olson via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Hi Kalia, yep, I agree.. I guess I should have said more about why I > preferred the original.. Anyway this is a great dance, a modern classic, > and i call it often.. > > > bill > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Callers <callers-bounces(a)lists.sharedweight.net> on behalf of > Kalia Kliban via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> > *Sent:* Friday, December 16, 2016 9:05 PM > *To:* callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > *Subject:* Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson > > On 12/16/2016 11:48 AM, Bill Olson via Callers wrote: > > 3-33-33 > > > > Steve Zakon (Duple improper) > > A1 Balance N1, N1 pull by R, N2 pull by L , N3 Balance, box the gnat > > A2 N3 pull by R, N2 pull by L, N1 swing > > B1 Circle L 3/4, Partner Swing > > B2 Long Lines F&B, Ladies dosido 1.5 > > > > I'm aware of a "fix" to 333 where the W DSD 1.5 at the end of B2 was > > replaced by a W allem L 1.5.. I think I remember talking to Steve about > > this and he referred to this as an "approved alternative" HIMSELF.. > > I've both danced and called this alternate ending, and that allemande L > is pretty counterintuitive for the women. It causes some glitches as > folks fight with their natural instinct to allemande R. It works, but > you'll need to be really clear with the dancers that it's the > non-obvious hand there. > > Kalia > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > > Callers Info Page - lists.sharedweight.net > <http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net> > lists.sharedweight.net > This mailing list is for callers and people who want to be callers for > Contra and Traditional Square Dance. This is a place where callers can > support each other by ... > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > >

7 years, 4 months

Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

by Kalia Kliban via Callers

On 12/16/2016 11:48 AM, Bill Olson via Callers wrote: > 3-33-33 > > Steve Zakon (Duple improper) > A1 Balance N1, N1 pull by R, N2 pull by L , N3 Balance, box the gnat > A2 N3 pull by R, N2 pull by L, N1 swing > B1 Circle L 3/4, Partner Swing > B2 Long Lines F&B, Ladies dosido 1.5 > > I'm aware of a "fix" to 333 where the W DSD 1.5 at the end of B2 was > replaced by a W allem L 1.5.. I think I remember talking to Steve about > this and he referred to this as an "approved alternative" HIMSELF.. I've both danced and called this alternate ending, and that allemande L is pretty counterintuitive for the women. It causes some glitches as folks fight with their natural instinct to allemande R. It works, but you'll need to be really clear with the dancers that it's the non-obvious hand there. Kalia

7 years, 4 months

Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

by Perry Shafran via Callers

Dugan, I have seen what you call 4-44 called by others as a variation of 3-33, but I do not know if it actually exists as another dance with a different title, or just as a variation of 3-33. Perry From: Dugan Murphy via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> To: Callers List Serve <callers(a)sharedweight.net> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 2:12 PM Subject: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson Dear Shared Weighters, I wanted to call "3-33" by Steve Zakon-Anderson recently, but with a different B2 progression that would be easier for dancers to execute and for me to teach. Does this dance already exist under another title? If not, I'd like to call it "4-44" to present it in clear homage to Steve's creation. 4-44 by Dugan Murphy A1 Neighbor one right hand balance (4); pull by right (2); neighbor two pull by left (2); Neighbor three right hand balance (4); box the gnat (4)A2 Neighbor three pull by right (2); Neighbor 2 pull by left (2); Neighbor one swing (12)B1 Circle left three places (8); Partner swing (8)B2 Ladies chain (8); Left hand star (8) Please let me know if this sequence already has a name. I am already aware of "334" by Diane Silver A1 Neighbor one right hand balance (4); pull by right (2); neighbor two pull by left (2); Neighbor three right hand balance (4); box the gnat (4)A2 Neighbor three pull by right (2); Neighbor 2 pull by left (2); Neighbor one swing (12)B1 Gents left hand allemande 1.5 (8); Partner swing (8)B2 Circle left three places (8); Balance the ring (4); Partner California twirl (4) Question two: are there other 3-33-inspired dances out there you know about? Dugan MurphyPortland, Maine dugan at duganmurphy.com www.PortlandIntownContraDance.comwww.NufSed.consulting _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

7 years, 4 months

Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

by Yoyo Zhou via Callers

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Dugan Murphy via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Question two: are there other 3-33-inspired dances out there you know > about? > Tom Hinds has written Four, Forty-Four, Forty-Four (similar to, but not identical to, your name) and Five, Fifty-Five, Fifty-Five. Ants Marching by Ron Blechner is also fun: http://contradances.tumblr.com/post/10510984149/ants-marching Yoyo Zhou

7 years, 4 months

Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

by Donna Hunt via Callers

Dugan: I'm sure there are many out there. Here's one that I wrote. Ken's 60th Birthday Bash by Donna Hunt Duple Improper A1 Neighbor #1 Balance and pull by Right Neighbor #2 pull by Left Neighbor #3 Balance and Box the Gnat with Right A2 Neighbor #3 pull by Right, Neighbor #2 pull by Left, Swing Neighbor #1 B1 Gents Allemande Left 1 1/2 Partner Swing B2 Promenade across set Ladies Chain Note: Credit for A1 and A2 goes to Steve Zakon-Anderson's 3-33-33 Donna Web Site: donnahuntcaller.com Email: dhuntdancer(a)aol.com Cell: 215-565-6050 -----Original Message----- From: Dugan Murphy via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> To: Callers List Serve <callers(a)sharedweight.net> Sent: Fri, Dec 16, 2016 2:13 pm Subject: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson Dear Shared Weighters, I wanted to call "3-33" by Steve Zakon-Anderson recently, but with a different B2 progression that would be easier for dancers to execute and for me to teach. Does this dance already exist under another title? If not, I'd like to call it "4-44" to present it in clear homage to Steve's creation. 4-44 by Dugan Murphy A1 Neighbor one right hand balance (4); pull by right (2); neighbor two pull by left (2); Neighbor three right hand balance (4); box the gnat (4) A2 Neighbor three pull by right (2); Neighbor 2 pull by left (2); Neighbor one swing (12) B1 Circle left three places (8); Partner swing (8) B2 Ladies chain (8); Left hand star (8) Please let me know if this sequence already has a name. I am already aware of "334" by Diane Silver A1 Neighbor one right hand balance (4); pull by right (2); neighbor two pull by left (2); Neighbor three right hand balance (4); box the gnat (4) A2 Neighbor three pull by right (2); Neighbor 2 pull by left (2); Neighbor one swing (12) B1 Gents left hand allemande 1.5 (8); Partner swing (8) B2 Circle left three places (8); Balance the ring (4); Partner California twirl (4) Question two: are there other 3-33-inspired dances out there you know about? Dugan Murphy Portland, Maine dugan at duganmurphy.com www.PortlandIntownContraDance.com www.NufSed.consulting _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

7 years, 4 months

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