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Re: [Callers] Title and author if this dance, please?

by Bob Isaacs via Callers

This is a very fine improper dance by Carol Kopp, and it's called Piece of Cake - Bob Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 15:42:55 -0400 To: mawild(a)sbcglobal.net CC: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] Title and author if this dance, please? From: callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net Thanks, this will probably go into my box for an easy Hey dance. On Jul 11, 2015 3:09 PM, "Martha Wild via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: Duple Improper version:A Piece O' Cake by Carol Kopp On Jul 11, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers wrote: Instead of an odd progression, I'd just start the dance at the A2 and make it duple improper.N B+S (4,12) Hey (GL, PR, LL, NR) (16) Gents cross L (2) PS (14) Circle L 3/4 (8, forgiving) Bal Ring, Cali Twirl (4,4)It's a nice simple Hey dance with two swings. Why complicate it with unnecessary CCW Becket progression in the A1 when you can do a duple Imp with a B2 progression?Buy I suspect this one has to have been written already, no?Ron Blechner On Jul 11, 2015 2:32 PM, "Don Veino via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: Also it appears to progress backwards as noted - shouldn't it be Becket-CCW/Right instead? -Don On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:04 PM, James Saxe via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: Keith, I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about, but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean > B1 Hey for 4, M start R ? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much more common for them to start by left shoulders than by right. --Jim _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Title and Author? That's no moon...

by Luke Donforth via Callers

Thanks! My apologies to Cis Hinkle for getting that wrong. On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Jack Mitchell <jmitchell.nc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I have it as Rocket City Romp by Cis Hinkle. Great dance > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers < > callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I recently had the pleasure and honor of calling at a weekend with Lisa >> Greenleaf. I had just called one of my own dances, and then went to call >> one of Lisa's. After walking it through and announcing it as such, Lisa >> told me that she didn't write the dance. (She was very gracious about it, >> and we had a good laugh.) >> >> I had it in my box as Gypsy Moon by Lisa Greenleaf. I'm not sure if it's >> same title, but different author and I conflated them, or if it's another >> name entirely. But if anyone recognizes it, I'd like to give credit where >> it's due. >> >> NOT Gypsy Moon >> unknown >> Type: Contra >> Formation: Duple-Improper >> >> A1 ----------- >> (8) Neighbor Balance Right, pull by, pull by Ptr across set >> (8) Neighbor swing >> A2 ----------- >> (8) Long lines, forward and back >> (8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2 >> B1 ----------- >> (16) Partner balance and swing >> B2 ----------- >> (8) Women's Chain across >> (4) Right to Your Partner, balance Right >> (4) pull by Right with Ptr, and left with Neighbor on to the next >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net >> >> > -- Luke Donforth Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Title and Author? That's no moon...

by Jack Mitchell via Callers

I have it as Rocket City Romp by Cis Hinkle. Great dance On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Hello all, > > I recently had the pleasure and honor of calling at a weekend with Lisa > Greenleaf. I had just called one of my own dances, and then went to call > one of Lisa's. After walking it through and announcing it as such, Lisa > told me that she didn't write the dance. (She was very gracious about it, > and we had a good laugh.) > > I had it in my box as Gypsy Moon by Lisa Greenleaf. I'm not sure if it's > same title, but different author and I conflated them, or if it's another > name entirely. But if anyone recognizes it, I'd like to give credit where > it's due. > > NOT Gypsy Moon > unknown > Type: Contra > Formation: Duple-Improper > > A1 ----------- > (8) Neighbor Balance Right, pull by, pull by Ptr across set > (8) Neighbor swing > A2 ----------- > (8) Long lines, forward and back > (8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2 > B1 ----------- > (16) Partner balance and swing > B2 ----------- > (8) Women's Chain across > (4) Right to Your Partner, balance Right > (4) pull by Right with Ptr, and left with Neighbor on to the next > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > >

8 years, 9 months

[Callers] Title and Author? That's no moon...

by Luke Donforth via Callers

Hello all, I recently had the pleasure and honor of calling at a weekend with Lisa Greenleaf. I had just called one of my own dances, and then went to call one of Lisa's. After walking it through and announcing it as such, Lisa told me that she didn't write the dance. (She was very gracious about it, and we had a good laugh.) I had it in my box as Gypsy Moon by Lisa Greenleaf. I'm not sure if it's same title, but different author and I conflated them, or if it's another name entirely. But if anyone recognizes it, I'd like to give credit where it's due. NOT Gypsy Moon unknown Type: Contra Formation: Duple-Improper A1 ----------- (8) Neighbor Balance Right, pull by, pull by Ptr across set (8) Neighbor swing A2 ----------- (8) Long lines, forward and back (8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2 B1 ----------- (16) Partner balance and swing B2 ----------- (8) Women's Chain across (4) Right to Your Partner, balance Right (4) pull by Right with Ptr, and left with Neighbor on to the next

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Title and author if this dance, please?

by Martha Wild via Callers

Duple Improper version: A Piece O' Cake by Carol Kopp On Jul 11, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers wrote: > Instead of an odd progression, I'd just start the dance at the A2 and make it duple improper. > > N B+S (4,12) > Hey (GL, PR, LL, NR) (16) > Gents cross L (2) > PS (14) > Circle L 3/4 (8, forgiving) > Bal Ring, Cali Twirl (4,4) > > It's a nice simple Hey dance with two swings. Why complicate it with unnecessary CCW Becket progression in the A1 when you can do a duple Imp with a B2 progression? > > Buy I suspect this one has to have been written already, no? > > Ron Blechner > > On Jul 11, 2015 2:32 PM, "Don Veino via Callers" <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Also it appears to progress backwards as noted - shouldn't it be Becket-CCW/Right instead? > > -Don > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:04 PM, James Saxe via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Keith, > > I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about, > but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean > > > B1 Hey for 4, M start R > > ? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much > more common for them to start by left shoulders than by > right. > > --Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Title and author if this dance, please?

by Tom Hinds via Callers

Thanks for pointing that out Martha. I never would have published/ taken credit for The Host had I realized they were the same. T On Jul 11, 2015, at 2:55 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers wrote: > Instead of an odd progression, I'd just start the dance at the A2 > and make it duple improper. > > N B+S (4,12) > Hey (GL, PR, LL, NR) (16) > Gents cross L (2) > PS (14) > Circle L 3/4 (8, forgiving) > Bal Ring, Cali Twirl (4,4) > > It's a nice simple Hey dance with two swings. Why complicate it > with unnecessary CCW Becket progression in the A1 when you can do a > duple Imp with a B2 progression? > > Buy I suspect this one has to have been written already, no? > > Ron Blechner > > On Jul 11, 2015 2:32 PM, "Don Veino via Callers" > <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Also it appears to progress backwards as noted - shouldn't it be > Becket-CCW/Right instead? > > -Don > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:04 PM, James Saxe via Callers > <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Keith, > > I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about, > but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean > > > B1 Hey for 4, M start R > > ? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much > more common for them to start by left shoulders than by > right. > > --Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Title and author if this dance, please?

by Ron Blechner via Callers

Instead of an odd progression, I'd just start the dance at the A2 and make it duple improper. N B+S (4,12) Hey (GL, PR, LL, NR) (16) Gents cross L (2) PS (14) Circle L 3/4 (8, forgiving) Bal Ring, Cali Twirl (4,4) It's a nice simple Hey dance with two swings. Why complicate it with unnecessary CCW Becket progression in the A1 when you can do a duple Imp with a B2 progression? Buy I suspect this one has to have been written already, no? Ron Blechner On Jul 11, 2015 2:32 PM, "Don Veino via Callers" < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Also it appears to progress backwards as noted - shouldn't it be > Becket-CCW/Right instead? > > -Don > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:04 PM, James Saxe via Callers < > callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> Keith, >> >> I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about, >> but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean >> >> > B1 Hey for 4, M start R >> >> ? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much >> more common for them to start by left shoulders than by >> right. >> >> --Jim >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net > >

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] Title and author if this dance, please?

by James Saxe via Callers

Keith, I don't have a title or author for the dance you ask about, but I hae a question. Are you sure you mean > B1 Hey for 4, M start R ? When men start a hey after a swing, I think it's much more common for them to start by left shoulders than by right. --Jim > On Jul 11, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Keith Tuxhorn via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > Becket > > A1 Circle L 3/4; bal, CA twirl > A2 N bal/swing > B1 Hey for 4, M start R > B2 M cross, P swing > > Thanks! > > Keith Tuxhorn > Austin TX > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net > http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

8 years, 9 months

[Callers] Title and author if this dance, please?

by Keith Tuxhorn via Callers

Becket A1 Circle L 3/4; bal, CA twirl A2 N bal/swing B1 Hey for 4, M start R B2 M cross, P swing Thanks! Keith Tuxhorn Austin TX

8 years, 9 months

Re: [Callers] cueing the band

by Claire Takemori via Callers

Thanks Alan! Sounds like a lot to learn. I'm really grateful that there are so many callers willing to mentor new callers and help with these things. When I called at camp last week, I was listening for the 3rd song and even my experienced caller helper was not sure on the transition....... but knew when to ask. Must be an amazing thing when really good callers like George Marshall can get out on the floor and dance for a bit, or Nils Fredland can join the band...... Thanks for all the help! claire Message: 3 Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 00:31:54 -0700 From: Alan Winston via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> To: <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> Subject: Re: [Callers] Thanks Message-ID: <559F74EA.4010603(a)slac.stanford.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed On 7/9/15 11:58 PM, Claire Takemori via Callers wrote: > > I'm still looking for good instructions on when to cue the band for the ending? Is it simply when a couple is out at the top that you signal during B1 that there are 3 more times left? Basically, mostly. And you have to stay with them because sometimes they'll catch the 3, know it's happening, and then look to you for confirmation of the last one and if you're thinking about the next dance or glazing over and can't confirm it, confusion may ensue. So it doesn't hurt to be ready to show them 1 finger (not that one) before the last time. Usually a full 3-2-1 is more than they need and actually unhelpful because your coming over with the "2" makes them think this is new information and they need to process it. Complications: Some dances have a couple out at the top in B1 who are going to be brought back in B2, so you have to know the end effects of the dance. Talk to the band. Rarely (in the Bay Area, anyway) you get an old-timey band that's just going to pound one tune all the way through, and they just want to know when to go out. I've mostly been used to bands that are playing three-tune medleys. They're going to play like 6-6-7 or 6-6-5. The last tune is probably climactic so you don't want to cut it short. You ideally will keep track of which tune they're on (which can be surprisingly hard to do from the stage with your attention on the floor and no monitors pointing at you and the tune sounding different every time they play it because of variations and dynamics - you might not realize they've changed) and know when they're in the third tune and give them the 3-more at B1 of tune 2 or 4. If you give 'em 3 when they're about to change tunes they might wave you off and play 5. But the band might want to play a two-tune medley, and then they want to know when you're (about) halfway through the dance so they know when to switch, and for that you have to decide how many times you want to run the dance, keep count of how many times it's been run by the time you said it was halfway, and count down to your "3", remembering to do it when there's a couple out at the top, if that's possible. "If that's possible" because sometimes you're trying to manage all this and some couple drops out of one set or tries and fails to trade or some other damn thing and the sets get out of synch. (For some reason that's happened to me most often calling Lake City.) Then it's not possible to finish after a couple has come in at the top in all sets. People who care about that care about that, most won't notice, and a lot of dancers will just say "huh" and move on if they do notice it. > > > What I was mostly curious is if someone had written out ways to teach the various steps. I guess this is one of those things that is still passed down the old-fashioned way. I have to find a great caller, listen to them call and write down what they say..... I was hoping I would not have to miss out on dancing to learn this. You can set up a voice recorder and transcribe later. (Polite to ask if it's okay first.) If you're friends with the sound man you might the caller mic feed ... -- Alan

8 years, 9 months

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