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Luke Donforth via Callers

9 May 2016 9 May '16

1:46 p.m.

Hello all, I was trying to write a nice end-of-evening dance that had a balance at the top of B1, and ended with a partner swing (that wasn't Old Time Elixir #2 or Tica Tica timing...) and came up with this. I think it's new, and it worked well in Montreal recently; but I'd like to know if it already existed: Becket A1 Circle left 3/4 Neighbor swing A2 Gents start hey for 4 by left B1 Right to neighbor (women back to back in middle), balance and box gnat Pull by right, women allemande left 1 1/2 B2 Partner balance and swing Slide left Happy dancing -- Luke Donforth Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>

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Jerome Grisanti via Callers

9 May 9 May

1:52 p.m.

New subject: New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

Luke, I don't recognize it, but it looks fun. Just curious ... did you have a particular tune in mind that shaped your desire for the balance at the top of the B sections? --Jerome Jerome Grisanti 660-528-0858 http://www.jeromegrisanti.com "Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and power and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

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Luke Donforth via Callers

2:55 p.m.

New subject: New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

My tentative name (assuming the composition doesn't already exist) is Vallimont's Silver Hammer. The dance came out of a conversation with the talented musician Julie Vallimont (just got permission to use the name) about closing sets; and how callers like dances that end with swings but bands often have something that builds to a big hit at the A to B transition in the music. On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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-- Luke Donforth Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>

Luke Donforth via Callers

3:23 p.m.

New subject: New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

And it turns out it's already been written: Bob Isaacs called it "Return to Sender" Sorry for the false alarm. On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Luke Donforth <luke.donev(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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-- Luke Donforth Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>

Robert Golder via Callers

3:30 p.m.

New subject: New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

The dance name "Return to Sender" may always now seem a bit ironic to you, but there are worse things in life than to come up with choreography so good that Bob Isaacs got there first. On May 9, 2016, at 3:23 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

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And it turns out it's already been written: Bob Isaacs called it "Return to Sender" Sorry for the false alarm. On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Luke Donforth <luke.donev(a)gmail.com> wrote: My tentative name (assuming the composition doesn't already exist) is Vallimont's Silver Hammer. The dance came out of a conversation with the talented musician Julie Vallimont (just got permission to use the name) about closing sets; and how callers like dances that end with swings but bands often have something that builds to a big hit at the A to B transition in the music. On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti(a)gmail.com> wrote: Luke, I don't recognize it, but it looks fun. Just curious ... did you have a particular tune in mind that shaped your desire for the balance at the top of the B sections? --Jerome Jerome Grisanti 660-528-0858 http://www.jeromegrisanti.com "Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and power and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: Hello all, I was trying to write a nice end-of-evening dance that had a balance at the top of B1, and ended with a partner swing (that wasn't Old Time Elixir #2 or Tica Tica timing...) and came up with this. I think it's new, and it worked well in Montreal recently; but I'd like to know if it already existed: Becket A1 Circle left 3/4 Neighbor swing A2 Gents start hey for 4 by left B1 Right to neighbor (women back to back in middle), balance and box gnat Pull by right, women allemande left 1 1/2 B2 Partner balance and swing Slide left Happy dancing -- Luke Donforth Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net -- Luke Donforth Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com -- Luke Donforth Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

Luke Donforth via Callers

4:40 p.m.

New subject: New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

Two corrections: The Bob Isaacs composition that I accidentally duplicated is "Return 2 Sender". "Return to Sender" is a different Bob Isaacs dance with a double progression. I'm now proposing Vallimont's Silver Hammer be the following dance instead: Becket A1 Circle Left Neighbor Swing A2 Promenade across with neighbor Ladies chain to partner B1 Right to neighbor, balance and pull by; pull by partner left shadow DSD 1x B2 Partner Balance and Swing slide left (That is, unless that one exists as well; in which case I'll write her a different one.) Happy dancing

Bob Isaacs via Callers

6:37 p.m.

Hi All: As Luke noted, there are two dances with similar names. The first is: Return to Sender Becket-L, double, 7/18/00 A1. L diagonal R and L through, ladies chain to neighbor A2. Hey (LR, PL, GR, NL) - give R to N B1. Balance, box the gnat and pull by R, gents allemande L 1 1/2 B2. Partner balance, swing On 5/19/03 I wrote Return 2 Sender, the same dance below that Luke re-discovered. With a neighbor swing and a single progression, this is objectively better. For both I offer the following teaching tip: at the end of the hey take R with neighbor and have all face across, so for Return 2 Sender the ladies are back to back. Then have all take a small step to their L as the ideal position to finish the hey (if facing across is 12 o'clock/6 o'clock, then slightly L of across is 1 o'clock/7 o'clock). Then after the box the gnat and pull by, the ladies have a clearer path into the allemande L - Bob BecketA1Circle left 3/4Neighbor swingA2Gents start hey for 4 by leftB1Right to neighbor (women back to back in middle), balance and box gnatPull by right, women allemande left 1 1/2B2Partner balance and swingSlide left Happy dancing -- Luke Donforth Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com

Colin Hume via Callers

11 May 11 May

2:50 a.m.

New subject: New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

(Sending to the list this time!) On Mon, 9 May 2016 18:37:23 -0400, Bob Isaacs via Callers wrote:

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With a neighbor swing and a single progression, this is objectively better.

Bob - That depends on your objectives! The original Becket Reel was a double progression and I generally prefer that. And in England the swing isn't seen as the main part of a contra and contras don't go on nearly so long, so I (objectively) prefer your first version and will call that! Colin Hume

Yoyo Zhou via Callers

14 May 14 May

1:05 p.m.

New subject: New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

I was trying to come up with a dance last night that fit different parameters (full hey, no chain, and more balances), but it ends up fitting Luke's parameters too. I ended up not using this one, but has Bob (or another choreographer) written it already? Becket A1: (slide left to progress,) circle left 3/4, N swing A2: full hey for 4, gents pass left; the second time ladies meet, they ricochet; make long waves, right hand to P B1: balance right, slide right; balance left, slide left B2: P balance, swing Thanks, Yoyo Zhou

Maia McCormick via Callers

13 Jun 13 Jun

9:02 p.m.

New subject: New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

Called Bob's "Return 2 Sender" this past Thursday at Mt. Airy, PA -- what a good dance!! On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Bob Isaacs via Callers < callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

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Hi All: As Luke noted, there are two dances with similar names. The first is: Return to Sender Becket-L, double, 7/18/00 A1. L diagonal R and L through, ladies chain to neighbor A2. Hey (LR, PL, GR, NL) - give R to N B1. Balance, box the gnat and pull by R, gents allemande L 1 1/2 B2. Partner balance, swing On 5/19/03 I wrote Return 2 Sender, the same dance below that Luke re-discovered. With a neighbor swing and a single progression, this is objectively better. For both I offer the following teaching tip: at the end of the hey take R with neighbor and have all face across, so for Return 2 Sender the ladies are back to back. Then have all take a small step to their L as the ideal position to finish the hey (if facing across is 12 o'clock/6 o'clock, then slightly L of across is 1 o'clock/7 o'clock). Then after the box the gnat and pull by, the ladies have a clearer path into the allemande L - Bob Becket A1 Circle left 3/4 Neighbor swing A2 Gents start hey for 4 by left B1 Right to neighbor (women back to back in middle), balance and box gnat Pull by right, women allemande left 1 1/2 B2 Partner balance and swing Slide left Happy dancing -- Luke Donforth Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com> _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

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