27 Jul
2016
27 Jul
'16
3:10 p.m.
I agree with Martha and Colin. There's no reason to think that any contra
dance without two swings has a bug, necessarily, although Don may have been
in the mindset of fulfilling the desires and catering to the tastes of his
audiences when he said what he said. I can support that, too!
Greg
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Given the simplicity of the following, I expect to confirm they already
exist... but thought I'd check in with the knowledgeable horde here on SW.
This is something I apparently "wrote" over a year ago but found again
during a files dive today. :) I expect I may have put it aside due to no
Neighbor swing in the first pass. Spun off w/another A2 to address that
just now, below.
Revisiting them in light of the great heat we've had locally, they might be
sweet lower exertion dances with the right tunes. And lack of a second
swing can be a "feature" vs. "bug" in such conditions.
Please let me know the real author(s), should it not be me. :)
Thanks,
Don
Don Veino DRAFT 20150117 - Becket Left/CW
A1
LT Diag R&L Thru
Ladies Chain Straight Across
A2
Star Left
Star Right
B1
Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
B2
Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
Don Veino DRAFT 20160726 - Becket Left/CW
A1
LT Diag R&L Thru
Ladies Chain Straight Across
A2
Ladies Glance Around* Right 1x
Neighbor Swing
B1
Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
B2
Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
*Glance Around is just a placeholder for that other call, you know the
one...
27 Jul
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4:19 p.m.
New subject: Existential Inquiry
On 07/27/2016 04:10 PM, Greg Allan via Callers wrote:
I agree with Martha and Colin. There's no reason
to think that any contra
dance without two swings has a bug, necessarily, although Don may have been
in the mindset of fulfilling the desires and catering to the tastes of his
audiences when he said what he said. I can support that, too!
Greg
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> Given the simplicity of the following, I expect to confirm they already
> exist... but thought I'd check in with the knowledgeable horde here on SW.
>
> This is something I apparently "wrote" over a year ago but found again
> during a files dive today. :) I expect I may have put it aside due to no
> Neighbor swing in the first pass. Spun off w/another A2 to address that
> just now, below.
>
> Revisiting them in light of the great heat we've had locally, they might be
> sweet lower exertion dances with the right tunes. And lack of a second
> swing can be a "feature" vs. "bug" in such conditions.
>
> Please let me know the real author(s), should it not be me. :)
>
> Thanks,
> Don
>
> Don Veino DRAFT 20150117 - Becket Left/CW
>
> A1
> LT Diag R&L Thru
> Ladies Chain Straight Across
> A2
> Star Left
> Star Right
> B1
> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
> B2
> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>
> Don Veino DRAFT 20160726 - Becket Left/CW
>
> A1
> LT Diag R&L Thru
> Ladies Chain Straight Across
> A2
> Ladies Glance Around* Right 1x
> Neighbor Swing
> B1
> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
> B2
> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>
> *Glance Around is just a placeholder for that other call, you know the
> one...
>
6:06 p.m.
New subject: Existential Inquiry
Yup. While I call single swing and chestnut dances in some programs, I also
call in venues where you better do that infrequently if you're interested
in being asked back. Know your audience and pick your points of
influence... :)
On Jul 27, 2016 4:10 PM, "Greg Allan via Callers" <
callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I agree with Martha and Colin. There's no reason to think that any contra
dance
without two swings has a bug, necessarily, although Don may have been
in the mindset of fulfilling the desires and catering to the tastes of his
audiences when he said what he said. I can support that, too!
Greg
6:54 p.m.
New subject: Weaving Together Youngsters and Oldsters
Hi all,
I know that ONS dances are not always the preferred topic with this list, but I have a
particular challenge that I need help with and I am hoping some of you might have inspired
thoughts.
I will, for the second time, be calling a dance at a senior residential community that
will bring together a range of seniors in wheelchairs, seniors with a range of mobility
issues, and able seniors eager to dance, combined with children from the daycare that
serves staff of this community, meaning 2-3 year old youngsters and a few of their parents
and staff. I understand that these events are really popular as the seniors very much
enjoy watching and interacting with the small children of their caregivers.
The last time I did this I cobbled together a combination of simple dances like Chimes of
Dunkirk and Low Backed Car. A few eager folks (mostly staff) danced and most of the senior
citizens sat around the outside in a circle, sometimes shaking tambourines and waving
scarves. The toddlers joined in the dancing a bit, but also did a lot of running around
the edges. At one point we made a parade with all the instruments, which was quite
successful.
I would welcome any insights you might have about how to nurture a fun and successful
event in this situation. I call a lot of children and family dances - it’s really my
favorite thing to call - but I found this particular combination quite challenging last
time.
A few details: I don’t know how many people will be there - it’s drop-in. It will be
outside on the grass under a tent. The wee ones will be getting picked up by their parents
intermittently throughout the event.
I’ll take whatever you’ve got!!
Thanks,
Delia Clark
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8:49 p.m.
New subject: Weaving Together Youngsters and Oldsters
I'll offer two bits of advice. One is that seniors with mobility problems move more
easily forwards than backwards. I found this out once when I devised a very simple circle
dance that was mainly circle left and into the center and back. That worked fine when
hands were not joined (as in "ladies to the center and back") but was terrifying
when everyone went into the center and back - because the young, boisterous ones went
backward faster than the old folks were ready for. (So: have them drop hands for anything
involving moving backwards.)
The other thing I learned years ago as an international dance teacher: Older folks tend
to dislike being given "tactile input" , (i.e, being shoved around) as a
teaching tool. (So: stick to the visual and auditory input channels, and save the tactile
for the kids.)
I can't swear to it, but my understanding is that "Line Dancing" (where
nobody touches anybody) was invented about 1970 as a means of getting seniors to dance
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 27, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Delia Clark via Callers
<callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi all,
I know that ONS dances are not always the preferred topic with this list, but I have a
particular challenge that I need help with and I am hoping some of you might have inspired
thoughts.
I will, for the second time, be calling a dance at a senior residential community that
will bring together a range of seniors in wheelchairs, seniors with a range of mobility
issues, and able seniors eager to dance, combined with children from the daycare that
serves staff of this community, meaning 2-3 year old youngsters and a few of their parents
and staff. I understand that these events are really popular as the seniors very much
enjoy watching and interacting with the small children of their caregivers.
The last time I did this I cobbled together a combination of simple dances like Chimes of
Dunkirk and Low Backed Car. A few eager folks (mostly staff) danced and most of the senior
citizens sat around the outside in a circle, sometimes shaking tambourines and waving
scarves. The toddlers joined in the dancing a bit, but also did a lot of running around
the edges. At one point we made a parade with all the instruments, which was quite
successful.
I would welcome any insights you might have about how to nurture a fun and successful
event in this situation. I call a lot of children and family dances - it’s really my
favorite thing to call - but I found this particular combination quite challenging last
time.
A few details: I don’t know how many people will be there - it’s drop-in. It will be
outside on the grass under a tent. The wee ones will be getting picked up by their parents
intermittently throughout the event.
I’ll take whatever you’ve got!!
Thanks,
Delia Clark
<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>
Delia Clark
PO Box 45
Taftsville, VT 05073
Office/mobile: +1-802-457-2075
deliaclark8(a)gmail.com
www.deliaclarkconfluence.com
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New subject: Weaving Together Youngsters and Oldsters
So, are you saying maybe “no" on the small musical instruments/tambourines and waving
scarfs?
On Jul 27, 2016, at 9:49 PM, John Rogers
<joda.rogers(a)icloud.com> wrote:
Older folks tend to dislike being given "tactile input" , (i.e, being shoved
around) as a teaching tool. (So: stick to the visual and auditory input channels, and
save the tactile for the kids.)
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Delia Clark
PO Box 45
Taftsville, VT 05073
Office/mobile: +1-802-457-2075
deliaclark8(a)gmail.com <mailto:deliaclark8@gmail.com>
www.deliaclarkconfluence.com <http://www.deliaclarkconfluence.com/>
9:56 p.m.
New subject: Weaving Together Youngsters and Oldsters
No, I am not saying that, I don't think. I didn't mean you to take my comments as
meaning I didn't like your idea... I was offering insight that might possibly be
useful, but not trying to say your plan was a bad one. If the seniors are in a different
circle than the youngsters, they are disconnected from each other, and the youngsters
can't pull them over backwards. I assume the "waving scarves" means they
aren't holding hands with each other, and (in the context of the concern that I wrote
about) that's even better. Of course, being disconnected makes the whole thing less
dance-like, so there is a little bit of a trade off between "safety" and
"fun", and you'll have to decide where the sweet spot is, based on your
knowledge of your group. I was just offering some things to consider that might oerhaps
be different to what you had thought about already.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 27, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Delia Clark
<deliaclark8(a)gmail.com> wrote:
So, are you saying maybe “no" on the small musical instruments/tambourines and
waving scarfs?
On Jul 27, 2016, at 9:49 PM, John Rogers
<joda.rogers(a)icloud.com> wrote:
Older folks tend to dislike being given "tactile input" , (i.e, being shoved
around) as a teaching tool. (So: stick to the visual and auditory input channels, and
save the tactile for the kids.)
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Delia Clark
PO Box 45
Taftsville, VT 05073
Office/mobile: +1-802-457-2075
deliaclark8(a)gmail.com
www.deliaclarkconfluence.com
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