11 Apr
2021
11 Apr
'21
10:53 p.m.
Hello all,
In a regular year, this is about when I'd be signing up for my annual
caller's insurance through CDSS.
This year, the policy is running for the same time-frame, May to May. Given
that there's no in-person dancing now or for months, that seemed
sub-optimal, since they won't pro-rate it for later in the year.
The policy through CDSS is apparently also explicitly NOT covering anything
covid related. Apparently the insurance companies don't want to open up
their liability. I can't say their policy is that inspiring if they won't
cover the first thing I've ever actually worried about at a dance. I can
see not starting it now, but it seemed odd that it's the blanket no-go for
the foreseeable future.
So I'm wondering if there are other options or policies that folks are
using? Something that starts on a different calendar and/or covers for
covid possibilities?
Looking forward to safely getting back together for community dancing again.
Luke
12 Apr
12 Apr
12:21 a.m.
Caller's insurance? Huh.
-Amy
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021, 3:53 PM Luke Donforth via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hello all,
In a regular year, this is about when I'd be signing up for my annual
caller's insurance through CDSS.
This year, the policy is running for the same time-frame, May to May.
Given that there's no in-person dancing now or for months, that seemed
sub-optimal, since they won't pro-rate it for later in the year.
The policy through CDSS is apparently also explicitly NOT covering
anything covid related. Apparently the insurance companies don't want to
open up their liability. I can't say their policy is that inspiring if they
won't cover the first thing I've ever actually worried about at a dance. I
can see not starting it now, but it seemed odd that it's the blanket no-go
for the foreseeable future.
So I'm wondering if there are other options or policies that folks are
using? Something that starts on a different calendar and/or covers for
covid possibilities?
Looking forward to safely getting back together for community dancing
again.
Luke
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net
12:23 a.m.
I should have included the link to the CDSS option:
https://www.cdss.org/support-services/insurance-group-services/callers-liab…
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 8:22 PM Amy Wimmer <amywimmer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Caller's insurance? Huh.
-Amy
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021, 3:53 PM Luke Donforth via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
--
Luke Donforth
Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>
Hello all,
In a regular year, this is about when I'd be signing up for my annual
caller's insurance through CDSS.
This year, the policy is running for the same time-frame, May to May.
Given that there's no in-person dancing now or for months, that seemed
sub-optimal, since they won't pro-rate it for later in the year.
The policy through CDSS is apparently also explicitly NOT covering
anything covid related. Apparently the insurance companies don't want to
open up their liability. I can't say their policy is that inspiring if they
won't cover the first thing I've ever actually worried about at a dance. I
can see not starting it now, but it seemed odd that it's the blanket no-go
for the foreseeable future.
So I'm wondering if there are other options or policies that folks are
using? Something that starts on a different calendar and/or covers for
covid possibilities?
Looking forward to safely getting back together for community dancing
again.
Luke
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
To unsubscribe send an email to
contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net
1:22 a.m.
Luke, I get my insurance from Callerlab because, for $28 extra, it also
covers BMI/ASCAP. So far I have taken just one dancer to the E. R., but
that was enough to convince me of the value of insurance.
Susan 😊🎶
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 8:23 PM Luke Donforth via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I should have included the link to the CDSS option:
https://www.cdss.org/support-services/insurance-group-services/callers-liab…
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 8:22 PM Amy Wimmer <amywimmer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
Susan [image: 🎶] [image: ☺]
330-347-8155
woosterdance.com
Caller's insurance? Huh.
-Amy
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021, 3:53 PM Luke Donforth via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
--
Luke Donforth
Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net
Hello all,
In a regular year, this is about when I'd be signing up for my annual
caller's insurance through CDSS.
This year, the policy is running for the same time-frame, May to May.
Given that there's no in-person dancing now or for months, that seemed
sub-optimal, since they won't pro-rate it for later in the year.
The policy through CDSS is apparently also explicitly NOT covering
anything covid related. Apparently the insurance companies don't want to
open up their liability. I can't say their policy is that inspiring if they
won't cover the first thing I've ever actually worried about at a dance. I
can see not starting it now, but it seemed odd that it's the blanket no-go
for the foreseeable future.
So I'm wondering if there are other options or policies that folks are
using? Something that starts on a different calendar and/or covers for
covid possibilities?
Looking forward to safely getting back together for community dancing
again.
Luke
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
To unsubscribe send an email to
contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net
1:25 a.m.
Susan --
Are you a callerlab member? (I'm not. When I got Callerlab insurance through CDSS, I
don't believe it included BMI/ASCAP coverage. [This was years ago and I'm not a
square dance caller and I almost always work with live music or (rarely) recorded trad or
historical tunes that aren't BMI/ASCAP registered, so I didn't pursue it and may
perhaps misremember the details.]
-- Alan
________________________________
From: Susan English via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 6:22 PM
To: Luke Donforth <luke.donev(a)gmail.com>
Cc: Callers(a)Lists.Sharedweight.net <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Subject: [Callers] Re: Caller's Insurance?
Luke, I get my insurance from Callerlab because, for $28 extra, it also covers BMI/ASCAP.
So far I have taken just one dancer to the E. R., but that was enough to convince me of
the value of insurance.
Susan 😊🎶
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 8:23 PM Luke Donforth via Contra Callers
<contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>>
wrote:
I should have included the link to the CDSS option:
https://www.cdss.org/support-services/insurance-group-services/callers-liab…
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 8:22 PM Amy Wimmer
<amywimmer@gmail.com<mailto:amywimmer@gmail.com>> wrote:
Caller's insurance? Huh.
-Amy
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021, 3:53 PM Luke Donforth via Contra Callers
<contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>>
wrote:
Hello all,
In a regular year, this is about when I'd be signing up for my annual caller's
insurance through CDSS.
This year, the policy is running for the same time-frame, May to May. Given that
there's no in-person dancing now or for months, that seemed sub-optimal, since they
won't pro-rate it for later in the year.
The policy through CDSS is apparently also explicitly NOT covering anything covid related.
Apparently the insurance companies don't want to open up their liability. I can't
say their policy is that inspiring if they won't cover the first thing I've ever
actually worried about at a dance. I can see not starting it now, but it seemed odd that
it's the blanket no-go for the foreseeable future.
So I'm wondering if there are other options or policies that folks are using?
Something that starts on a different calendar and/or covers for covid possibilities?
Looking forward to safely getting back together for community dancing again.
Luke
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list --
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>
To unsubscribe send an email to
contracallers-leave@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers-leave@lists.sharedweight.net>
--
Luke Donforth
Luke.Donforth@gmail.com<mailto:Luke.Donev@gmail.com>
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list --
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>
To unsubscribe send an email to
contracallers-leave@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers-leave@lists.sharedweight.net>
--
Susan [🎶] [☺]
330-347-8155
woosterdance.com<http://woosterdance.com>
26 Apr
26 Apr
5:32 p.m.
I'm curious, does the CDSS liability insurance cover illnesses of other
sorts?
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 8:25 PM Winston, Alan P. via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Susan --
Are you a callerlab member? (I'm not. When I got Callerlab insurance
through CDSS, I don't believe it included BMI/ASCAP coverage. [This was
years ago and I'm not a square dance caller and I almost always work with
live music or (rarely) recorded trad or historical tunes that aren't
BMI/ASCAP registered, so I didn't pursue it and may perhaps misremember the
details.]
-- Alan
------------------------------
*From:* Susan English via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
*Sent:* Sunday, April 11, 2021 6:22 PM
*To:* Luke Donforth <luke.donev(a)gmail.com>
*Cc:* Callers(a)Lists.Sharedweight.net <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
*Subject:* [Callers] Re: Caller's Insurance?
Luke, I get my insurance from Callerlab because, for $28 extra, it also
covers BMI/ASCAP. So far I have taken just one dancer to the E. R., but
that was enough to convince me of the value of insurance.
Susan 😊🎶
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 8:23 PM Luke Donforth via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I should have included the link to the CDSS option:
https://www.cdss.org/support-services/insurance-group-services/callers-liab…
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 8:22 PM Amy Wimmer <amywimmer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Caller's insurance? Huh.
-Amy
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021, 3:53 PM Luke Donforth via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hello all,
In a regular year, this is about when I'd be signing up for my annual
caller's insurance through CDSS.
This year, the policy is running for the same time-frame, May to May.
Given that there's no in-person dancing now or for months, that seemed
sub-optimal, since they won't pro-rate it for later in the year.
The policy through CDSS is apparently also explicitly NOT covering
anything covid related. Apparently the insurance companies don't want to
open up their liability. I can't say their policy is that inspiring if they
won't cover the first thing I've ever actually worried about at a dance. I
can see not starting it now, but it seemed odd that it's the blanket no-go
for the foreseeable future.
So I'm wondering if there are other options or policies that folks are
using? Something that starts on a different calendar and/or covers for
covid possibilities?
Looking forward to safely getting back together for community dancing
again.
Luke
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net
--
Luke Donforth
Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net
--
Susan [image: 🎶] [image: ☺]
330-347-8155
woosterdance.com
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net
5:44 p.m.
I'm not sure but I don't think so Jim. I think it's simply for liability
insurance at gigs.
Ben Williams (Ben(a)cdss.org) is the staff member that could answer your
questions.
Emily
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:32 PM Jim Hemphill via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I'm curious, does the CDSS liability insurance
cover illnesses of other
sorts?
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 8:25 PM Winston, Alan P. via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Susan --
Are you a callerlab member? (I'm not. When I got Callerlab insurance
through CDSS, I don't believe it included BMI/ASCAP coverage. [This was
years ago and I'm not a square dance caller and I almost always work with
live music or (rarely) recorded trad or historical tunes that aren't
BMI/ASCAP registered, so I didn't pursue it and may perhaps misremember the
details.]
-- Alan
------------------------------
*From:* Susan English via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
*Sent:* Sunday, April 11, 2021 6:22 PM
*To:* Luke Donforth <luke.donev(a)gmail.com>
*Cc:* Callers(a)Lists.Sharedweight.net <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
*Subject:* [Callers] Re: Caller's Insurance?
Luke, I get my insurance from Callerlab because, for $28 extra, it also
covers BMI/ASCAP. So far I have taken just one dancer to the E. R., but
that was enough to convince me of the value of insurance.
Susan 😊🎶
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 8:23 PM Luke Donforth via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I should have included the link to the CDSS option:
https://www.cdss.org/support-services/insurance-group-services/callers-liab…
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 8:22 PM Amy Wimmer <amywimmer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Caller's insurance? Huh.
-Amy
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021, 3:53 PM Luke Donforth via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hello all,
In a regular year, this is about when I'd be signing up for my annual
caller's insurance through CDSS.
This year, the policy is running for the same time-frame, May to May.
Given that there's no in-person dancing now or for months, that seemed
sub-optimal, since they won't pro-rate it for later in the year.
The policy through CDSS is apparently also explicitly NOT covering
anything covid related. Apparently the insurance companies don't want to
open up their liability. I can't say their policy is that inspiring if they
won't cover the first thing I've ever actually worried about at a dance. I
can see not starting it now, but it seemed odd that it's the blanket no-go
for the foreseeable future.
So I'm wondering if there are other options or policies that folks are
using? Something that starts on a different calendar and/or covers for
covid possibilities?
Looking forward to safely getting back together for community dancing
again.
Luke
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
To unsubscribe send an email to
contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net
--
Luke Donforth
Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
To unsubscribe send an email to
contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net
--
Susan [image: 🎶] [image: ☺]
330-347-8155
woosterdance.com
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
To unsubscribe send an email to
contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net
27 Apr
27 Apr
1:13 a.m.
I might be totally wrong about this, but, my understanding was that there was a provision
in the first stimulus package that prohibited the suing of businesses by employees or
customers who contracted covid-19 in that business / by utilizing that business'
services. If so, I would think that neither callers nor local dance groups would need
liability insurance coverage to cover covid-19 or covid related things.
Naomi
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 7:52 PM, Emily Addison via Contra
Callers<contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net
2:09 p.m.
No liability shields were included in the final versions of any of the
stimulus bills. Your state might have one; about half of the states have
passed them in some way. I'm sure whether they would apply in this
situation would vary greatly from state to state.
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 9:13 PM Naomi Anderegg via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I might be totally wrong about this, but, my
understanding was that there
was a provision in the first stimulus package that prohibited the suing of
businesses by employees or customers who contracted covid-19 in that
business / by utilizing that business' services. If so, I would think that
neither callers nor local dance groups would need liability insurance
coverage to cover covid-19 or covid related things.
Naomi
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
<https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 7:52 PM, Emily Addison via Contra Callers
<contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net
--
David Casserly
(cell) 781 258-2761
he/him
12 Apr
12 Apr
12:51 a.m.
NFO membership is $30/yr. including insurance. I've been happy with it for
several years, the certificate of insurance looks the same as any other
I've seen.
Haven't specifically checked on any new C-19 exclusions. I expect all
insurance companies will be asserting covid falls under the standard "act
of god" exceptions even without specific wording.
1:06 a.m.
Indeed, my NFO certificates have the Marsh logo on them, the same as my CDSS certificates
used to.
But I know nothing yet about COVID-related liability.
-- Alan
________________________________
From: Don Veino via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2021 5:51 PM
To: Luke Donforth <luke.donev(a)gmail.com>
Cc: Callers(a)Lists.Sharedweight.net <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Subject: [Callers] Re: Caller's Insurance?
NFO membership is $30/yr. including insurance. I've been happy with it for several
years, the certificate of insurance looks the same as any other I've seen.
Haven't specifically checked on any new C-19 exclusions. I expect all insurance
companies will be asserting covid falls under the standard "act of god"
exceptions even without specific wording.
1:02 a.m.
I get insurance and music license through Callerlab.
Lissa Bengtson
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:53 PM Luke Donforth via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hello all,
In a regular year, this is about when I'd be signing up for my annual
caller's insurance through CDSS.
This year, the policy is running for the same time-frame, May to May.
Given that there's no in-person dancing now or for months, that seemed
sub-optimal, since they won't pro-rate it for later in the year.
The policy through CDSS is apparently also explicitly NOT covering
anything covid related. Apparently the insurance companies don't want to
open up their liability. I can't say their policy is that inspiring if they
won't cover the first thing I've ever actually worried about at a dance. I
can see not starting it now, but it seemed odd that it's the blanket no-go
for the foreseeable future.
So I'm wondering if there are other options or policies that folks are
using? Something that starts on a different calendar and/or covers for
covid possibilities?
Looking forward to safely getting back together for community dancing
again.
Luke
_______________________________________________
Contra Callers mailing list -- contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
To unsubscribe send an email to contracallers-leave(a)lists.sharedweight.net
1094
days inactive
1110
days old
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net
11 comments
10 participants
participants (10)
-
Amy Wimmer -
Dave Casserly -
Don Veino -
Emily Addison -
Jim Hemphill -
Lissa Bengtson -
Luke Donforth -
Naomi Anderegg -
Susan English -
Winston, Alan P.