Hmmm......  Although I remain completely unperturbed by our new g-word,  Fred Park's "a nose-to-nose do-si-do" description inspired other  ideas for a surrogate. How about "dance [or orbit] around" or "dance [or orbit] about" ?     Any of  these   are as easy or easier for a caller to proclaim than  "do-si-do" or "ladies chain." Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801      217 239 5844 #yiv2862906804 #yiv2862906804 -- DIV {margin:0px;}#yiv2862906804