1 Aug
2010
1 Aug
'10
9:17 p.m.
Hello all,
A dancer friend asked me about initial formation terminology, and I
wasn't sure so I thought I'd ask the hive mind.
In contra sets with hands four, if neither the 1s nor 2s cross over,
it's proper formation (specifically duple minor I believe). If the 1s
cross, it's improper.
If the 1s cross and the whole set rotates 1/4 circle, it's Becket.
If the 1s don't cross over but the 2s do, I've called that formation
indecent. I'm not sure how widespread that use is.
If the 1s and the 2s cross? I'd be inclined towards anti-proper or
maybe improper-indecent (a mouthful). This was the question that
prompted the query.
Triple minor dances are hands six, and can be proper or with some
couples crossed over... I don't know specific sub-names.
Tempest formation is a wide n shape of four couples, actives in the
middle facing down, inactives on the sides facing in.
There's circle dances and Sicillian circles of facing couples. There's
four couple square dance formation, five couples for Levi Jackson's
rag, Morris and rapper formations and more. But are there other contra
formations and if so what are they called?
Are there other traditional formations, and if so what are they called?
Thanks
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Luke Donev
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2 Aug
2 Aug
4:28 a.m.
Luke Donev wrote:
A dancer friend asked me about initial formation
terminology, and I
wasn't sure so I thought I'd ask the hive mind.
In contra sets with hands four, if neither the 1s nor
2s cross over,
it's proper formation (specifically duple minor I believe). If the 1s
cross, it's improper.
Correct on duple minor - "duple" because it's a two-couple figure.
If the 1s cross and the whole set rotates 1/4 circle,
it's Becket.
If the 1s don't cross over but the 2s do, I've
called that formation
indecent. I'm not sure how widespread that use is.
Joseph Pimentel has spread that name for the formation around.
If the 1s and the 2s cross? I'd be inclined
towards anti-proper or
maybe improper-indecent (a mouthful). This was the question that
prompted the query.
Unaware of standard name for this ofrmation.
Triple minor dances are hands six, and can be proper
or with some
couples crossed over... I don't know specific sub-names.
Tempest formation is a wide n shape of four couples,
actives in the
middle facing down, inactives on the sides facing in.
There's circle dances and Sicillian circles of
facing couples. There's
four couple square dance formation, five couples for Levi Jackson's
rag, Morris and rapper formations and more. But are there other contra
formations and if so what are they called?
A circle of couples all facing the same way. (Not unknown for mixers.)
There's a circle of couples all facing in. (Single circle.)
A circle of men facing out surrounded by a circle of women facing in. (Double
circle.)
Four-face-fours in column or Sicilian circle.
(Portland Fancy or Mescolanza or Double Sicilian)
Three-face-three. (Historically, "the Swedish dance" - a name assigned by
English dancing masters. I usually say "threesome Sicilian." "Rustic
Reel" is
an American example.)
There are triplets, which are three-couple longways. (Not aware of specific
sub-names for 1s improper or 2s improper.) Is it "traditional" if Ted Sanella
named the formation?
Then there's various scatter mixer formations, where two or three people start
somewhere in no relation to any other couple, then break up and find other
people.
Does that help?
-- Alan
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4:38 a.m.
You nailed it as far as I can tell. I have seen a CCW Becket where
the hands four move one place to the R instead of L. I call that
reverse becket, which is not the best term. Diane Silver would be the
go to person in my mind to ask. Indecent is used here in NY and in NH
and Maine, also MI. So I would say that name is right. Good luck in
your quest.
Andrea
On 8/1/2010 9:17 PM, Luke Donev wrote:
Hello all,
A dancer friend asked me about initial formation terminology, and I
wasn't sure so I thought I'd ask the hive mind.
In contra sets with hands four, if neither the 1s nor 2s cross over,
it's proper formation (specifically duple minor I believe). If the 1s
cross, it's improper.
If the 1s cross and the whole set rotates 1/4 circle, it's Becket.
If the 1s don't cross over but the 2s do, I've called that formation
indecent. I'm not sure how widespread that use is.
If the 1s and the 2s cross? I'd be inclined towards anti-proper or
maybe improper-indecent (a mouthful). This was the question that
prompted the query.
Triple minor dances are hands six, and can be proper or with some
couples crossed over... I don't know specific sub-names.
Tempest formation is a wide n shape of four couples, actives in the
middle facing down, inactives on the sides facing in.
There's circle dances and Sicillian circles of facing couples. There's
four couple square dance formation, five couples for Levi Jackson's
rag, Morris and rapper formations and more. But are there other contra
formations and if so what are they called?
Are there other traditional formations, and if so what are they called?
Thanks
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