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  3. Re: In search of un-premiered contras! (Tom Hinds via Callers)
  4. Re: In search of un-premiered contras! (David Harding via Callers)
  5. Re: In search of un-premiered contras! (Don Veino via Callers)
  6. Re: In search of un-premiered contras! (Linda Leslie via Callers)

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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 21:26:38 -0400
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Hi choreographer folks,

I'm leading a session at NEFFA called "Cutting-Edge Contras", consisting of
un-premiered (or very sparsely called) contras. If anyone has any dances
they'd like to throw my way for consideration, please do so!

Cheers,
Maia
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Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 21:26:18 -0500
From: David Harding via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] In search of un-premiered contras!
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Here's something I envisioned last fall and have been meaning to post
for comment. There were conversations here about gents chains and about
balancing the activity levels of ladies and gents. At Squirrel Moon
Weekend, Tom Hinds called a dance whose details I don't remember, except
that it started with a gents chain across from Becket formation,
followed by gents chain on the right diagonal (I think). About 2/3 of
the way through the dance, he switched to start with a ladies chain
across and then on the left diagonal. It was dramatic how different the
two versions of the dance felt. That got me to thinking, why not switch
each time through to symmetrize the dance, the way modern dances with
contra corners often do? Perhaps that's sufficiently disorienting to be
cutting edge.

I have not had the occasion to call this, but would be happy to hear if
anyone thinks it's worth giving a try. I haven't thought through the
teaching, but imagine that for a group that could handle it, two
walk-throughs would be useful.

The working title is "Both Sides"
Becket

A1 Gents allemande 1 1/2; Neighbor swing
A2 Long lines forward and back; Gents chain, courtesy turn
B1 Gents left shoulder full hey
B2 Partner balance and swing

Alternate with
A1 Ladies allemande right 1 1/2; Neighbor swing
A2 Long lines; Ladies chain, courtesy trun
B1 Ladies right shoulder full hey
B2 Partner balance and swing

Dave Harding

On 3/26/2017 8:26 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers wrote:

Hi choreographer folks,

I'm leading a session at NEFFA called "Cutting-Edge Contras",
consisting of un-premiered (or very sparsely called) contras. If
anyone has any dances they'd like to throw my way for consideration,
please do so!

Cheers,
Maia

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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 07:59:11 -0400
From: Tom Hinds via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
To: David Harding <dharding101@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] In search of un-premiered contras!
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David, you're thinking of Stretching the Limits (men chain version)
and Stretching the LImits (women chain version).

You're very creative, thinking of switching each time. A caller,
Will Martin has come up with that very idea. The progression is in
the same direction and has half heys instead of full heys. He calls
his version Stretching the Limits of Truth. I probably won't be able
to find my copy and will ask him for his. I doubt it's every been
called although it works on paper!

Tom
On Mar 26, 2017, at 10:26 PM, David Harding via Callers wrote:

Here's something I envisioned last fall and have been meaning to
post for comment. There were conversations here about gents chains
and about balancing the activity levels of ladies and gents. At
Squirrel Moon Weekend, Tom Hinds called a dance whose details I
don't remember, except that it started with a gents chain across
from Becket formation, followed by gents chain on the right
diagonal (I think). About 2/3 of the way through the dance, he
switched to start with a ladies chain across and then on the left
diagonal. It was dramatic how different the two versions of the
dance felt. That got me to thinking, why not switch each time
through to symmetrize the dance, the way modern dances with contra
corners often do? Perhaps that's sufficiently disorienting to be
cutting edge.
I have not had the occasion to call this, but would be happy to
hear if anyone thinks it's worth giving a try. I haven't thought
through the teaching, but imagine that for a group that could
handle it, two walk-throughs would be useful.
The working title is "Both Sides"
Becket

A1 Gents allemande 1 1/2; Neighbor swing
A2 Long lines forward and back; Gents chain, courtesy turn
B1 Gents left shoulder full hey
B2 Partner balance and swing

Alternate with
A1 Ladies allemande right 1 1/2; Neighbor swing
A2 Long lines; Ladies chain, courtesy trun
B1 Ladies right shoulder full hey
B2 Partner balance and swing
Dave Harding

On 3/26/2017 8:26 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers wrote:
Hi choreographer folks,

I'm leading a session at NEFFA called "Cutting-Edge Contras",
consisting of un-premiered (or very sparsely called) contras. If
anyone has any dances they'd like to throw my way for
consideration, please do so!

Cheers,
Maia

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Here's something I envisioned last fall and have been meaning to post
for comment. There were conversations here about gents chains and
about balancing the activity levels of ladies and gents. At Squirrel
Moon Weekend, Tom Hinds called a dance whose details I don't remember,
except that it started with a gents chain across from Becket
formation, followed by gents chain on the right diagonal (I think).
About 2/3 of the way through the dance, he switched to start with a
ladies chain across and then on the left diagonal. It was dramatic
how different the two versions of the dance felt. That got me to
thinking, why not switch each time through to symmetrize the dance,
the way modern dances with contra corners often do? Perhaps that's
sufficiently disorienting to be cutting edge.

I have not had the occasion to call this, but would be happy to hear
if anyone thinks it's worth giving a try. I haven't thought through
the teaching, but imagine that for a group that could handle it, two
walk-throughs would be useful.

The working title is "Both Sides"
Becket

A1 Gents allemande 1 1/2; Neighbor swing
A2 Long lines forward and back; Gents chain, courtesy turn
B1 Gents left shoulder full hey
B2 Partner balance and swing

Alternate with
A1 Ladies allemande right 1 1/2; Neighbor swing
A2 Long lines; Ladies chain, courtesy trun
B1 Ladies right shoulder full hey
B2 Partner balance and swing

Dave Harding

On 3/26/2017 8:26 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers wrote:
Hi choreographer folks,

I'm leading a session at NEFFA called "Cutting-Edge Contras",
consisting of un-premiered (or very sparsely called) contras. If
anyone has any dances they'd like to throw my way for consideration,
please do so!

Cheers,
Maia

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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 10:12:21 -0400
From: Don Veino via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
To: Don Veino via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
Subject: Re: [Callers] In search of un-premiered contras!
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Dave,

I believe there's a simple fix that'll retain the balance of your dance -
but it's double progression. Split your heys into halves with the first
half being on the diagonal (progresssion) and then straight across.

-Don

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 8:49 AM, David Harding via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

Scratch that. Now that I look at it in light of Tom's comments, I realize
that there is no progression. Doh!

On 3/26/2017 9:26 PM, David Harding via Callers wrote:

Here's something I envisioned last fall and have been meaning to post for
comment. There were conversations here about gents chains and about
balancing the activity levels of ladies and gents. At Squirrel Moon
Weekend, Tom Hinds called a dance whose details I don't remember, except
that it started with a gents chain across from Becket formation, followed
by gents chain on the right diagonal (I think). About 2/3 of the way
through the dance, he switched to start with a ladies chain across and then
on the left diagonal. It was dramatic how different the two versions of
the dance felt. That got me to thinking, why not switch each time through
to symmetrize the dance, the way modern dances with contra corners often
do? Perhaps that's sufficiently disorienting to be cutting edge.

I have not had the occasion to call this, but would be happy to hear if
anyone thinks it's worth giving a try. I haven't thought through the
teaching, but imagine that for a group that could handle it, two
walk-throughs would be useful.

The working title is "Both Sides"
Becket

A1 Gents allemande 1 1/2; Neighbor swing
A2 Long lines forward and back; Gents chain, courtesy turn
B1 Gents left shoulder full hey
B2 Partner balance and swing

Alternate with
A1 Ladies allemande right 1 1/2; Neighbor swing
A2 Long lines; Ladies chain, courtesy trun
B1 Ladies right shoulder full hey
B2 Partner balance and swing

Dave Harding

On 3/26/2017 8:26 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers wrote:

Hi choreographer folks,

I'm leading a session at NEFFA called "Cutting-Edge Contras", consisting
of un-premiered (or very sparsely called) contras. If anyone has any dances
they'd like to throw my way for consideration, please do so!

Cheers,
Maia

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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 12:11:29 -0400
From: Linda Leslie via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
To: David Harding <dharding101@comcast.net>
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You can fix that little challenge by making the A1 a neighbor give & take on the left diagonal. As couples, dancers go forward on the left, and bring neighbor straight back for a swing. In the gents' chain version, the ladies would bring N back; in the ladies? chain version, gents would bring N back to swing.
Linda

On Mar 27, 2017, at 8:49 AM, David Harding via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

Scratch that. Now that I look at it in light of Tom's comments, I realize that there is no progression. Doh!

On 3/26/2017 9:26 PM, David Harding via Callers wrote:
Here's something I envisioned last fall and have been meaning to post for comment. There were conversations here about gents chains and about balancing the activity levels of ladies and gents. At Squirrel Moon Weekend, Tom Hinds called a dance whose details I don't remember, except that it started with a gents chain across from Becket formation, followed by gents chain on the right diagonal (I think). About 2/3 of the way through the dance, he switched to start with a ladies chain across and then on the left diagonal. It was dramatic how different the two versions of the dance felt. That got me to thinking, why not switch each time through to symmetrize the dance, the way modern dances with contra corners often do? Perhaps that's sufficiently disorienting to be cutting edge.
I have not had the occasion to call this, but would be happy to hear if anyone thinks it's worth giving a try. I haven't thought through the teaching, but imagine that for a group that could handle it, two walk-throughs would be useful.
The working title is "Both Sides"
Becket

A1 Gents allemande 1 1/2; Neighbor swing
A2 Long lines forward and back; Gents chain, courtesy turn
B1 Gents left shoulder full hey
B2 Partner balance and swing

Alternate with
A1 Ladies allemande right 1 1/2; Neighbor swing
A2 Long lines; Ladies chain, courtesy trun
B1 Ladies right shoulder full hey
B2 Partner balance and swing
Dave Harding

On 3/26/2017 8:26 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers wrote:
Hi choreographer folks,

I'm leading a session at NEFFA called "Cutting-Edge Contras", consisting of un-premiered (or very sparsely called) contras. If anyone has any dances they'd like to throw my way for consideration, please do so!

Cheers,
Maia

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