The easiest I know is Donna Calhoun's ADPD, Awesome Double Progression Dance

A1 8 
down the hall and turn alone 1s in center
8 
up the hall and bend into a ring
A2 8 
circle left 4 places
8 
star left 4 places ⁋
B1 16 
neighbors balance & swing NEW Neighbor
B2 8 
long lines forward & back
8 
ones swing end facing down ⁋

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  12. Re: Short contra lines (Jonathan Sivier)
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There is such a lack of attendance now post Covid in our area and I’m planning dances and then 20 people show. Do you have best selections or considerations for 20 to 16 peoples for  intermediate experience dancers or secondarily less experienced dancers

My immediate question is for more experienced dancers, because this is more of a complex preparation for me. 

Laurie Pietravalle 

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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 01:30:54 -0400
Subject: [Callers] Re: Short contra lines
With smaller groups definitely consider screening compositions for significant end effects - dancers will encounter them a greater proportion of time than in longer lines/bigger crowds.

-Don

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Subject: [Callers] Long lines go f&b
Seth, 

How about the usual square dance "lines go into the middle and back," or the old "eight fall in and eight fall back"? Too obscure?

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Wow! I had assumed you really meant “long lines”, as in “Each couple face across the hall” as opposed to facing up and down toward the next line of four as is usual in 4x4s. If you mean the usual “Face another line of four,” then “Long lines” (with or without “forward and back”) is just plain inaccurate. Glad we clarified that.

 

 

Tony Parkes

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From: Tepfer, Seth <labst@emory.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 10:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [External] RE: New dance for your consideration

 

Tony

 

Thank you for your feedback. Instead of saying "long lines forward and back", I could have said "lines of four go forward and back", though technically they are going up and down. Perhaps "short lines, go forward and back"

 

I want the dance to be clearly understood by all.

Seth

 

Seth Tepfer, MBA, CSM, PMP (he, him, his)

Senior IT Manager, Emory Primate Center

From: Tony Parkes <tony@hands4.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:02 AM
To: Tepfer, Seth <labst@emory.edu>; Caller's discussion list <callers@sharedweight.net>
Subject: [External] RE: New dance for your consideration

 

Hi, Seth and all… Two points:

 

1. I’m aware that a lot of folks use “long lines” as shorthand for “long lines forward and back.” It bugs me, but that’s probably just my age and eccentricity. But I humbly submit that in a 4x4, where there are fewer conventions – things taken for granted – than in a longways, it’s helpful to spell out as much as possible.

 

2. Do you really mean “long lines forward and back,” not “forward and back up and down the hall”? The former call is so unusual in 4x4s (in fact, I don’t think I’ve encountered it before) that I think it merits a note below the description.

 

Cheers,

Tony

 

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From: Tepfer, Seth via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 10:09 PM
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Hello Callers. 

 

Update on the dance previously presented. Thank you Bill Baritompa for the suggestion to switch to left hand waves. Much more satisfying! Thank you Tanya for the naming feedback.

 

Title: Two for Tea*

Author: Seth Tepfer

Formation: 4x4

A1: Long lines (8), in fours, Right hand chain to neighbor (8)

A2: Same person DSD (8), Neighbor swing (8)

B1: in fours, balance the ring (4), petronella spin to a wave of two - give neighbor LEFT hand to form short waves of two people; balance (4), "circulate 2" (walk forward two spaces) (4)

B2: balance (4), "circulate 2" (walk forward two spaces) (4); left hand dancer turn around and partner swing; end swing facing original direction and new couples progressed and on the other side of the 4-some

 

Note:

  • At the start of the dance, identify your traveling buddy of the opposite role. This is your shadow. When doing the circulate two think of the direction you are facing as a racetrack or a paperclip - if you get to the end you will loop to your left to continue. You will end up in the place of the 2 people in front of you. You will pass 3 people and take the hand of the 4th. If you loop, looping counts as passing one person. When you remake the wave of two, the person you take left hands with  is your shadow, 

*Please note new name and discard previous name of the dance.

 

  • We only had 8 people, so after partner swing, we faced back in to repeat the dance. Normally after partner swing you would face your original direction to have new couples to play with.
  • The musician was playing "Softly Good Tummas' on a lark and because it is such a fabulous tune. That tune is not requisite for the dance.

 

Seth Tepfer, MBA, CSM, PMP (he, him, his)

Senior IT Manager, Emory Primate Center




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Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:47:39 -0400
Subject: [Callers] dance name? - Big Easy variation
Hi all,

I have a question about a variation on Becky Hill's Big Easy, which I see as:
Big Easy Becky Hill

A1: Bal Ring, Neighbor Swing (often changed to N B+S)
A2: LLFB, Robins Alle 1.5
B1: P B+S
B2: Circle L 3/4, Bal ring, pass thru

An easy variation I like, say, to introduce the courtesy turn early in the evening and to have the Larks not have to be relegated to keeping basically in one spot for 7/8ths of the dance, has:
A2. N Prom, robins alle 1.5
B2. Circle L 3/4, bal, cali twirl

It's enough of a change - especially for one of these easy glossary dances - that I figure someone may have claimed it as a new dance, and was looking for author and title. I didn't see this variation listed in The Caller's Box website.

Thanks,
Julian Blechner
he/him

p.s. Folks may know me as "Ron". I've been using a new first name. Pronouns are the same. I'm slowly trying to change my online presence, get a new website, etc.



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Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 13:13:21 -0400
Subject: [Callers] Re: dance name? - Big Easy variation
The only change I’d suggest is Robins Allem R since that is the free hand after a swing.

Lisa

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2022, at 11:47 AM, Julian Blechner via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi all,
>
> I have a question about a variation on Becky Hill's Big Easy, which I see as:
> Big Easy Becky Hill
>
> A1: Bal Ring, Neighbor Swing (often changed to N B+S)
> A2: LLFB, Robins Alle 1.5
> B1: P B+S
> B2: Circle L 3/4, Bal ring, pass thru
>
> An easy variation I like, say, to introduce the courtesy turn early in the evening and to have the Larks not have to be relegated to keeping basically in one spot for 7/8ths of the dance, has:
> A2. N Prom, robins alle 1.5
> B2. Circle L 3/4, bal, cali twirl
>
> It's enough of a change - especially for one of these easy glossary dances - that I figure someone may have claimed it as a new dance, and was looking for author and title. I didn't see this variation listed in The Caller's Box website.
>
> Thanks,
> Julian Blechner
> he/him
>
> p.s. Folks may know me as "Ron". I've been using a new first name. Pronouns are the same. I'm slowly trying to change my online presence, get a new website, etc.
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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 00:52:55 -0400
Subject: [Callers] Re: dance name? - Big Easy variation
I wonder if Julian's notation assumes Robins right allemande unless otherwise specified. I'm only guessing. Julian?

On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 1:15 PM Lisa Greenleaf via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
The only change I’d suggest is Robins Allem R since that is the free hand after a swing.

Lisa

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2022, at 11:47 AM, Julian Blechner via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi all,
>
> I have a question about a variation on Becky Hill's Big Easy, which I see as:
> Big Easy Becky Hill
>
> A1: Bal Ring, Neighbor Swing (often changed to N B+S)
> A2: LLFB, Robins Alle 1.5
> B1: P B+S
> B2: Circle L 3/4, Bal ring, pass thru
>
> An easy variation I like, say, to introduce the courtesy turn early in the evening and to have the Larks not have to be relegated to keeping basically in one spot for 7/8ths of the dance, has:
> A2. N Prom, robins alle 1.5
> B2. Circle L 3/4, bal, cali twirl
>
> It's enough of a change - especially for one of these easy glossary dances - that I figure someone may have claimed it as a new dance, and was looking for author and title. I didn't see this variation listed in The Caller's Box website.
>
> Thanks,
> Julian Blechner
> he/him
>
> p.s. Folks may know me as "Ron". I've been using a new first name. Pronouns are the same. I'm slowly trying to change my online presence, get a new website, etc.
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Subject: [Callers] Re: Short  contra lines
On Sat, 22 Oct 2022 05:25:13 +0000 (UTC), Laur via Contra Callers wrote:
> Do you have best selections or considerations for 20 to 16 peoples for  intermediate experience dancers or
> secondarily less experienced dancers
>
> My immediate question is for more experienced dancers, because this is more of a complex preparation for me.

Try some easy squares.

Colin Hume




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Subject: [Callers] Re: Short  contra lines

Hi Laurie,

              Last time I had that challenge in America, as well as some contras, I called:

Ted's Triplet #3

Waltz Country Dance

Big Set (Birdie in the Cage, California Show Basket, Down the Coal Mine)

Square --- NOT!

Microchasmic

Hexitation

 

              Check out the 101 formations at http://contrafusion.co.uk/Formations.html for dancers for any number of dancers.            

 

            Happy dancing,                         

                   John                                  

                                   

John Sweeney, Dancer, England   john@modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & 07802 940 574                         

http://contrafusion.co.uk/KentCeilidhs.html for Live Music Ceilidhs                       

http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent                                         

http://www.modernjive.com for Modern Jive DVDs




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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 07:41:50 -0400
Subject: [Callers] Re: Short contra lines
I always carry an assortment of 3 face 3 and 4 face 4 since my home dance may range from 6 - 30 dancers.

Sometimes a move such as right hand high, left hand low presents a challenge for some of my dancers so I adjust on the fly. And may do a double progression so no one  is ever out.

Mary

On Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 1:25 AM Laur via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
There is such a lack of attendance now post Covid in our area and I’m planning dances and then 20 people show. Do you have best selections or considerations for 20 to 16 peoples for  intermediate experience dancers or secondarily less experienced dancers

My immediate question is for more experienced dancers, because this is more of a complex preparation for me. 

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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 05:31:21 -0700
Subject: [Callers] Re: dance name? - Big Easy variation
Per my card on The Big Easy, it’s an allemande left after the long lines and before the partner swing. But I’m away from my books for a while and can’t go back to the source. I bet I got it from The Rosen Hill Collection. 

Her note on the dance says ‘This is a very easy version of “Ashokan Hello” by Tony Parkes, for use as a first contra dance of the evening where newcomers are plentiful.‘

\Bob

On Oct 21, 2022, at 21:53, Jerome Grisanti via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:


I wonder if Julian's notation assumes Robins right allemande unless otherwise specified. I'm only guessing. Julian?

On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 1:15 PM Lisa Greenleaf via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
The only change I’d suggest is Robins Allem R since that is the free hand after a swing.

Lisa

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2022, at 11:47 AM, Julian Blechner via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi all,
>
> I have a question about a variation on Becky Hill's Big Easy, which I see as:
> Big Easy Becky Hill
>
> A1: Bal Ring, Neighbor Swing (often changed to N B+S)
> A2: LLFB, Robins Alle 1.5
> B1: P B+S
> B2: Circle L 3/4, Bal ring, pass thru
>
> An easy variation I like, say, to introduce the courtesy turn early in the evening and to have the Larks not have to be relegated to keeping basically in one spot for 7/8ths of the dance, has:
> A2. N Prom, robins alle 1.5
> B2. Circle L 3/4, bal, cali twirl
>
> It's enough of a change - especially for one of these easy glossary dances - that I figure someone may have claimed it as a new dance, and was looking for author and title. I didn't see this variation listed in The Caller's Box website.
>
> Thanks,
> Julian Blechner
> he/him
>
> p.s. Folks may know me as "Ron". I've been using a new first name. Pronouns are the same. I'm slowly trying to change my online presence, get a new website, etc.
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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 13:15:57 +0000
Subject: [Callers] Re: dance name? - Big Easy variation

When I wrote Ashokan Hello, I realized that the left-hand turn was counterintuitive after a neighbor swing. But I needed it to be left because the next moves are a right-hand balance and box the gnat. I decided that the forward and back (between the swing and the turn) canceled the handedness. Obviously if it leads into a two-hand balance (the norm these days), the turn can be with either hand.

 

Tony Parkes

Billerica, Mass.

www.hands4.com

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From: Bob via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 8:31 AM
To: contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] Re: dance name? - Big Easy variation

 

Per my card on The Big Easy, it’s an allemande left after the long lines and before the partner swing. But I’m away from my books for a while and can’t go back to the source. I bet I got it from The Rosen Hill Collection. 



Her note on the dance says ‘This is a very easy version of “Ashokan Hello” by Tony Parkes, for use as a first contra dance of the evening where newcomers are plentiful.‘

 

\Bob



On Oct 21, 2022, at 21:53, Jerome Grisanti via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:



I wonder if Julian's notation assumes Robins right allemande unless otherwise specified. I'm only guessing. Julian?

 

On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 1:15 PM Lisa Greenleaf via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

The only change I’d suggest is Robins Allem R since that is the free hand after a swing.

Lisa

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2022, at 11:47 AM, Julian Blechner via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi all,
>
> I have a question about a variation on Becky Hill's Big Easy, which I see as:
> Big Easy Becky Hill
>
> A1: Bal Ring, Neighbor Swing (often changed to N B+S)
> A2: LLFB, Robins Alle 1.5
> B1: P B+S
> B2: Circle L 3/4, Bal ring, pass thru
>
> An easy variation I like, say, to introduce the courtesy turn early in the evening and to have the Larks not have to be relegated to keeping basically in one spot for 7/8ths of the dance, has:
> A2. N Prom, robins alle 1.5
> B2. Circle L 3/4, bal, cali twirl
>
> It's enough of a change - especially for one of these easy glossary dances - that I figure someone may have claimed it as a new dance, and was looking for author and title. I didn't see this variation listed in The Caller's Box website.
>
> Thanks,
> Julian Blechner
> he/him
>
> p.s. Folks may know me as "Ron". I've been using a new first name. Pronouns are the same. I'm slowly trying to change my online presence, get a new website, etc.
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From: Victor Gascon <vgascon@gmail.com>
To: Mary Collins <nativedae@gmail.com>
Cc: Contra Callers <contracallers@sharedweight.net>
Bcc: 
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 09:30:27 -0400
Subject: [Callers] Re: Short contra lines
Is there a list of easy double-progression dances that the group can recommend?

On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 07:42 Mary Collins via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I always carry an assortment of 3 face 3 and 4 face 4 since my home dance may range from 6 - 30 dancers.

Sometimes a move such as right hand high, left hand low presents a challenge for some of my dancers so I adjust on the fly. And may do a double progression so no one  is ever out.

Mary

On Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 1:25 AM Laur via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
There is such a lack of attendance now post Covid in our area and I’m planning dances and then 20 people show. Do you have best selections or considerations for 20 to 16 peoples for  intermediate experience dancers or secondarily less experienced dancers

My immediate question is for more experienced dancers, because this is more of a complex preparation for me. 

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To: Mary Collins <nativedae@gmail.com>, Victor Gascon <vgascon@gmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 13:47:43 +0000
Subject: [Callers] Re: [External] Re: Short contra lines
Victor and Mary

One of my favorite double progression dances is ADPD by Donna Calhoun. I used it to close out last nights CCD ATL contra!
http://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/hosted/Donna_Calhoun.html#adpd

ADPD (Awesome Double Progression Dance)

by Donna Calhoun

duple, improper

A1)

  • 4-in-Line Down the hall (Actives in center); turn single
  • Return; Bend the Line

A2)

  • Circle Left
  • Left Hand Star

B1)

  • Balance and Swing NEXT neighbor

B2

  • Lines Forward and Back
  • Actives Swing


This is one of the easiest double-progression dances I know. I often do this as a no-walkthrough dance.

This dance was written in desperation one night when I was calling our local dance and I left my cards on the kitchen table. It Worked!! I intended to call it The Panic Button in honor of its origin but events conspired against that name. Robert Cromartie picked it up from me at Feet Retreat then called it at his local dance. Afterwards Gene Hubert asked him "What was the name of that awesome double progression dance?" Robert wrote that as the title on his card and later submitted it to Larry Jennings under the name ADPD for inclusion in the next incarnation of Zesty Contras. (GIVE and Take) Since the new name was about to appear in print, it won.



Seth Tepfer, MBA, CSM, PMP (he, him, his)

Senior IT Manager, Emory Primate Center
From: Victor Gascon via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 9:30 AM
To: Mary Collins <nativedae@gmail.com>
Cc: Contra Callers <contracallers@sharedweight.net>
Subject: [External] [Callers] Re: Short contra lines
 
Is there a list of easy double-progression dances that the group can recommend?

On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 07:42 Mary Collins via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I always carry an assortment of 3 face 3 and 4 face 4 since my home dance may range from 6 - 30 dancers.

Sometimes a move such as right hand high, left hand low presents a challenge for some of my dancers so I adjust on the fly. And may do a double progression so no one  is ever out.

Mary

On Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 1:25 AM Laur via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
There is such a lack of attendance now post Covid in our area and I’m planning dances and then 20 people show. Do you have best selections or considerations for 20 to 16 peoples for  intermediate experience dancers or secondarily less experienced dancers

My immediate question is for more experienced dancers, because this is more of a complex preparation for me. 

Laurie Pietravalle 

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From: Tony Parkes <tony@hands4.com>
To: Contra Callers <contracallers@sharedweight.net>
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 14:02:45 +0000
Subject: [Callers] Re: Short contra lines

Remember that double progression dances work better with an odd number of couples (assuming the end effects are not overwhelming). With an even number, the dancers will always be doing the same part of the routine with the same neighbors. This will be even more frustrating in short lines.

 

Tony Parkes

Billerica, Mass.

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From: Victor Gascon via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 9:30 AM
To: Mary Collins <nativedae@gmail.com>
Cc: Contra Callers <contracallers@sharedweight.net>
Subject: [Callers] Re: Short contra lines

 

Is there a list of easy double-progression dances that the group can recommend?

 

On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 07:42 Mary Collins via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

I always carry an assortment of 3 face 3 and 4 face 4 since my home dance may range from 6 - 30 dancers.

 

Sometimes a move such as right hand high, left hand low presents a challenge for some of my dancers so I adjust on the fly. And may do a double progression so no one  is ever out.

 

Mary

 

On Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 1:25 AM Laur via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

There is such a lack of attendance now post Covid in our area and I’m planning dances and then 20 people show. Do you have best selections or considerations for 20 to 16 peoples for  intermediate experience dancers or secondarily less experienced dancers

My immediate question is for more experienced dancers, because this is more of a complex preparation for me. 

 

Laurie Pietravalle 

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From: Jonathan Sivier <jsivier@illinois.edu>
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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 10:21:13 -0500
Subject: [Callers] Re: Short contra lines
On 10/22/2022 8:30 AM, Victor Gascon via Contra Callers wrote:
> Is there a list of easy double-progression dances that the group can recommend?
>

    Here's a great one that I use often.

Awesome Double Progression Dance
Donna Calhoun-McAllister
duple improper, double progression; beginner

1 - down the hall 4 in line (actives in the center),
     turn alone
2 - return, bend the line to a cirle
3 - circle left
4 - star left
5-6 with new neighbor, balance and swing
7 - long lines forward and back
8 - actives swing in the center

    A variation I often use is the have the line of 4 come back cozy and duck into a cloverleaf star.

Jonathan
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From: Ron Blechner <contraron@gmail.com>
To: Tony Parkes <tony@hands4.com>
Cc: Shared Weight Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>
Bcc: 
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 12:19:50 -0400
Subject: [Callers] Re: dance name? - Big Easy variation
I have a couple of Tony's books, but I just checked, and not the one containing Ashoken Hello. I'd be curious the choreo for that.

I've heard a few callers call The Big Easy, and most recently it was Liz Nelson, locally, early in an evening with a gaggle of new dancers, and she prompted it with the allemande Right.

The one on The Caller's Box has it as a Left.

I guess the other issue, which, now that I'm thinking about L vs R in details, is that from Robins role, an alle R puts it at 38-40 beats of clockwise rotation, which 26-28 beats is consecutively. 

Hm.

Changing the alle to a DoSiDo solves that, keeps the timing and keeps it as glossary moves, and flows well from a promade.(alts: pass thru across + twirl, or R+L Thru)

A1: N B+S
A2: N Prom, Robins DSD 1.5x
B1: P B+S
B2: Circle L 3/4, Bal, Cali Twirl

This dance searched brings up Yoyo Zhou's "Larks in the Afternoon"

A1: same
A2: Larks Alle L 1.5x, Robins DSD 1x
B1: same
B2: same

And also is similar to Linda Leslie's Berlin Contra:

A1: same
A2: LLFB, Robins DSD 1.5
B1: same
B2: Bal Ring, 2s Arch, 1s Dive

(Essentially, the Big Easy but Robins DSD. Now I'm curious which dance came first?)

And of course, Diane Silver's Easy Peasy:

A1: same
A2: LLFB, Larks Alle L 1.5
B1: same
B2: Circle, bal, cali.

Adding in a chain and/or a star and dropping the promenade and I have at least a dozen other dances in my box. (Appetizer, Push the Button, Too Hot To Trot, Simplicity Swing, Spend Some Time Together, Harmony Supper Line, Dick & Mary's Departure, Baby Rose, et al)

... but this niche of "simple dance with a courtesy turn, one role doesn't stay mostly in one spot, no star, no chain" is something I know I've looked for programming gigs and left wanting.

I'll leave this thread going as more callers see it and have dances to think of. I may temprarily dub the DSD version "The Big Hello".

-Julian

On Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 9:16 AM Tony Parkes via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

When I wrote Ashokan Hello, I realized that the left-hand turn was counterintuitive after a neighbor swing. But I needed it to be left because the next moves are a right-hand balance and box the gnat. I decided that the forward and back (between the swing and the turn) canceled the handedness. Obviously if it leads into a two-hand balance (the norm these days), the turn can be with either hand.

 

Tony Parkes

Billerica, Mass.

www.hands4.com

New book! Square Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century

(available now)

 

 

 

From: Bob via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 8:31 AM
To: contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] Re: dance name? - Big Easy variation

 

Per my card on The Big Easy, it’s an allemande left after the long lines and before the partner swing. But I’m away from my books for a while and can’t go back to the source. I bet I got it from The Rosen Hill Collection. 



Her note on the dance says ‘This is a very easy version of “Ashokan Hello” by Tony Parkes, for use as a first contra dance of the evening where newcomers are plentiful.‘

 

\Bob



On Oct 21, 2022, at 21:53, Jerome Grisanti via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:



I wonder if Julian's notation assumes Robins right allemande unless otherwise specified. I'm only guessing. Julian?

 

On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 1:15 PM Lisa Greenleaf via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

The only change I’d suggest is Robins Allem R since that is the free hand after a swing.

Lisa

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> On Oct 21, 2022, at 11:47 AM, Julian Blechner via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi all,
>
> I have a question about a variation on Becky Hill's Big Easy, which I see as:
> Big Easy Becky Hill
>
> A1: Bal Ring, Neighbor Swing (often changed to N B+S)
> A2: LLFB, Robins Alle 1.5
> B1: P B+S
> B2: Circle L 3/4, Bal ring, pass thru
>
> An easy variation I like, say, to introduce the courtesy turn early in the evening and to have the Larks not have to be relegated to keeping basically in one spot for 7/8ths of the dance, has:
> A2. N Prom, robins alle 1.5
> B2. Circle L 3/4, bal, cali twirl
>
> It's enough of a change - especially for one of these easy glossary dances - that I figure someone may have claimed it as a new dance, and was looking for author and title. I didn't see this variation listed in The Caller's Box website.
>
> Thanks,
> Julian Blechner
> he/him
>
> p.s. Folks may know me as "Ron". I've been using a new first name. Pronouns are the same. I'm slowly trying to change my online presence, get a new website, etc.
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From: Julian Blechner <juliancallsdances@gmail.com>
To: 
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Bcc: 
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 12:21:48 -0400
Subject: [Callers] Re: dance name? - Big Easy variation
... and I was on my old gmail. I'll fix that sometime, promise.

-Julian


On Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 12:20 PM Ron Blechner via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I have a couple of Tony's books, but I just checked, and not the one containing Ashoken Hello. I'd be curious the choreo for that.

I've heard a few callers call The Big Easy, and most recently it was Liz Nelson, locally, early in an evening with a gaggle of new dancers, and she prompted it with the allemande Right.

The one on The Caller's Box has it as a Left.

I guess the other issue, which, now that I'm thinking about L vs R in details, is that from Robins role, an alle R puts it at 38-40 beats of clockwise rotation, which 26-28 beats is consecutively. 

Hm.

Changing the alle to a DoSiDo solves that, keeps the timing and keeps it as glossary moves, and flows well from a promade.(alts: pass thru across + twirl, or R+L Thru)

A1: N B+S
A2: N Prom, Robins DSD 1.5x
B1: P B+S
B2: Circle L 3/4, Bal, Cali Twirl

This dance searched brings up Yoyo Zhou's "Larks in the Afternoon"

A1: same
A2: Larks Alle L 1.5x, Robins DSD 1x
B1: same
B2: same

And also is similar to Linda Leslie's Berlin Contra:

A1: same
A2: LLFB, Robins DSD 1.5
B1: same
B2: Bal Ring, 2s Arch, 1s Dive

(Essentially, the Big Easy but Robins DSD. Now I'm curious which dance came first?)

And of course, Diane Silver's Easy Peasy:

A1: same
A2: LLFB, Larks Alle L 1.5
B1: same
B2: Circle, bal, cali.

Adding in a chain and/or a star and dropping the promenade and I have at least a dozen other dances in my box. (Appetizer, Push the Button, Too Hot To Trot, Simplicity Swing, Spend Some Time Together, Harmony Supper Line, Dick & Mary's Departure, Baby Rose, et al)

... but this niche of "simple dance with a courtesy turn, one role doesn't stay mostly in one spot, no star, no chain" is something I know I've looked for programming gigs and left wanting.

I'll leave this thread going as more callers see it and have dances to think of. I may temprarily dub the DSD version "The Big Hello".

-Julian

On Sat, Oct 22, 2022, 9:16 AM Tony Parkes via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

When I wrote Ashokan Hello, I realized that the left-hand turn was counterintuitive after a neighbor swing. But I needed it to be left because the next moves are a right-hand balance and box the gnat. I decided that the forward and back (between the swing and the turn) canceled the handedness. Obviously if it leads into a two-hand balance (the norm these days), the turn can be with either hand.

 

Tony Parkes

Billerica, Mass.

www.hands4.com

New book! Square Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century

(available now)

 

 

 

From: Bob via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 8:31 AM
To: contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] Re: dance name? - Big Easy variation

 

Per my card on The Big Easy, it’s an allemande left after the long lines and before the partner swing. But I’m away from my books for a while and can’t go back to the source. I bet I got it from The Rosen Hill Collection. 



Her note on the dance says ‘This is a very easy version of “Ashokan Hello” by Tony Parkes, for use as a first contra dance of the evening where newcomers are plentiful.‘

 

\Bob



On Oct 21, 2022, at 21:53, Jerome Grisanti via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:



I wonder if Julian's notation assumes Robins right allemande unless otherwise specified. I'm only guessing. Julian?

 

On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 1:15 PM Lisa Greenleaf via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

The only change I’d suggest is Robins Allem R since that is the free hand after a swing.

Lisa

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2022, at 11:47 AM, Julian Blechner via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi all,
>
> I have a question about a variation on Becky Hill's Big Easy, which I see as:
> Big Easy Becky Hill
>
> A1: Bal Ring, Neighbor Swing (often changed to N B+S)
> A2: LLFB, Robins Alle 1.5
> B1: P B+S
> B2: Circle L 3/4, Bal ring, pass thru
>
> An easy variation I like, say, to introduce the courtesy turn early in the evening and to have the Larks not have to be relegated to keeping basically in one spot for 7/8ths of the dance, has:
> A2. N Prom, robins alle 1.5
> B2. Circle L 3/4, bal, cali twirl
>
> It's enough of a change - especially for one of these easy glossary dances - that I figure someone may have claimed it as a new dance, and was looking for author and title. I didn't see this variation listed in The Caller's Box website.
>
> Thanks,
> Julian Blechner
> he/him
>
> p.s. Folks may know me as "Ron". I've been using a new first name. Pronouns are the same. I'm slowly trying to change my online presence, get a new website, etc.
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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 14:49:30 -0500
Subject: [Callers] Re: Short  contra lines
Shorter lines provides the opportunity to pull out some of those “old but modern” great active/inactive dances, and both couples will have a chance to dance the 1s and 2s roles the whole length of the set without the dance lasting an unbearably long time. Some of my favorites are Scouthouse Reel and Flirtation Reel early on, and Fiddleheads, Brimmer and May Reel and Dulcimer Lady later.

And then you have the chance to dance all those non-alternating contra corners dances like The Tease, Rory O’More, For Those Who Cared (or the alternating dances dances as actives/1s dance all the way down).

Steve Pike
Wisconsin

PS Hi, Laura!!




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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 22:18:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Callers] Re: [External] Re: Short contra lines
Yes!  I use that as well. I closed todays session with it in fact. 

Laurie

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On Saturday, October 22, 2022, 5:33 PM, Tepfer, Seth via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

Victor and Mary

One of my favorite double progression dances is ADPD by Donna Calhoun. I used it to close out last nights CCD ATL contra!

ADPD (Awesome Double Progression Dance)

by Donna Calhoun

duple, improper

A1)

  • 4-in-Line Down the hall (Actives in center); turn single
  • Return; Bend the Line

A2)

  • Circle Left
  • Left Hand Star

B1)

  • Balance and Swing NEXT neighbor

B2

  • Lines Forward and Back
  • Actives Swing


This is one of the easiest double-progression dances I know. I often do this as a no-walkthrough dance.

This dance was written in desperation one night when I was calling our local dance and I left my cards on the kitchen table. It Worked!! I intended to call it The Panic Button in honor of its origin but events conspired against that name. Robert Cromartie picked it up from me at Feet Retreat then called it at his local dance. Afterwards Gene Hubert asked him "What was the name of that awesome double progression dance?" Robert wrote that as the title on his card and later submitted it to Larry Jennings under the name ADPD for inclusion in the next incarnation of Zesty Contras. (GIVE and Take) Since the new name was about to appear in print, it won.



Seth Tepfer, MBA, CSM, PMP (he, him, his)

Senior IT Manager, Emory Primate Center