I agree with Martha and Colin. There's no reason to think that any contra dance without two swings has a bug, necessarily, although Don may have been in the mindset of fulfilling the desires and catering to the tastes of his audiences when he said what he said. I can support that, too!

Greg 

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   1. Another Existential Inquiry (Don Veino via Callers)
   2. Re: Another Existential Inquiry (Martha Wild via Callers)
   3. Re: Another Existential Inquiry (colin@colinhume.com via Callers)


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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:39:33 -0400
From: Don Veino via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
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Subject: [Callers] Another Existential Inquiry
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Given the simplicity of the following, I expect to confirm they already
exist... but thought I'd check in with the knowledgeable horde here on SW.

This is something I apparently "wrote" over a year ago but found again
during a files dive today. :) I expect I may have put it aside due to no
Neighbor swing in the first pass. Spun off w/another A2 to address that
just now, below.

Revisiting them in light of the great heat we've had locally, they might be
sweet lower exertion dances with the right tunes. And lack of a second
swing can be a "feature" vs. "bug" in such conditions.

Please let me know the real author(s), should it not be me. :)

Thanks,
Don

Don Veino DRAFT 20150117 - Becket Left/CW

A1
LT Diag R&L Thru
Ladies Chain Straight Across
A2
Star Left
Star Right
B1
Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
B2
Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing

Don Veino DRAFT 20160726 - Becket Left/CW

A1
LT Diag R&L Thru
Ladies Chain Straight Across
A2
Ladies Glance Around* Right 1x
Neighbor Swing
B1
Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
B2
Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing

*Glance Around is just a placeholder for that other call, you know the
one...
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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:57:30 -0700
From: Martha Wild via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
To: Don Veino <sharedweight_net@veino.com>
Cc: Caller's discussion list <callers@sharedweight.net>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Another Existential Inquiry
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What is it with people and every dance having to have a neighbor swing? I personally dislike dance programs where every dance has a neighbor swing. Sometimes I?d like to pay attention to the partner I?m dancing with and not everyone else. Sometimes interesting choreography is available when you don?t have to squeeze two swings into everything. It adds variety to a program when there some dances without neighbor swings.

When I first started dancing many years ago, lots of dances didn?t have a partner swing and only had a neighbor swing. Mother-in-law dances, we called them. And sometimes, when I had a partner who was really bad at swinging, I was happy to do them!

So I don?t think your first dance is fatally flawed, or even should be considered as having a bug - it?s just what it is, a dance with a partner swing, and as you said, on a hot night in a crowded hall without air-conditioning, one swing, or even dances where only actives swing, can suddenly be desirable.

Martha


> On Jul 26, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Don Veino via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Given the simplicity of the following, I expect to confirm they already exist... but thought I'd check in with the knowledgeable horde here on SW.
>
> This is something I apparently "wrote" over a year ago but found again during a files dive today. :) I expect I may have put it aside due to no Neighbor swing in the first pass. Spun off w/another A2 to address that just now, below.
>
> Revisiting them in light of the great heat we've had locally, they might be sweet lower exertion dances with the right tunes. And lack of a second swing can be a "feature" vs. "bug" in such conditions.
>
> Please let me know the real author(s), should it not be me. :)
>
> Thanks,
> Don
>
> Don Veino DRAFT 20150117 - Becket Left/CW
>
> A1
> LT Diag R&L Thru
> Ladies Chain Straight Across
> A2
> Star Left
> Star Right
> B1
> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
> B2
> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>
> Don Veino DRAFT 20160726 - Becket Left/CW
>
> A1
> LT Diag R&L Thru
> Ladies Chain Straight Across
> A2
> Ladies Glance Around* Right 1x
> Neighbor Swing
> B1
> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
> B2
> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>
> *Glance Around is just a placeholder for that other call, you know the one...
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Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:05:54 -0400
From: "colin@colinhume.com via Callers"
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Another Existential Inquiry
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:57:30 -0700, Martha Wild via Callers wrote:
>?What is it with people and every dance having to have a neighbor swing? I
personally dislike dance programs where
>?every dance has a neighbor swing. Sometimes I?d like to pay attention to
the partner I?m dancing with and not
>?everyone else. Sometimes interesting choreography is available when you
don?t have to squeeze two swings into
>?everything.

That's exactly what I think, and I'm so pleased to hear an American say the
same thing!

Colin Hume  (currently in Ann Arbor, MI where I'm calling a workshop of
Advanced Contras & Squares on Saturday)


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