Tom,

I find it humorous that we both had the same thought experiment. I read "honky" as less offensive than "redneck", but that may be subjective and/or semantic.

To be very plain:

The image we conjure up of a "gypsy" is a stereotype. "Gypsy" for many invokes images of coin hip scarves and veils and brightly painted caravans. Mysterious women. Homeless vagrants who are selling snake oil. Fire eaters. Sellers of junk.

Even if we removed the negative ones, and "gypsy" made us just think of "sexy mysterious woman", isn't that just objectifying women? Or sexualizing a race of people? Is that any different than talking about which race has bigger or smaller penises? Or saying that Asian women are "exotic" and black men are "savage"?

So yeah, the more I've thought about this over the last few days - and the last year or so ago, since I first suggested "spiral" - I've been realizing that "gypsy" is a problem. Maybe it's not, at least in America, the slur that it is in parts of Europe. But it's still a stereotype loaded word.

...

Why now?

The other objection is "very few are complaining, why not wait til more people are complaining?"

Well, we can wait until it's a big problem, or we can acknowledge the direction things are going, and head it off before it becomes less of an accepted word. Would I rather be too PC, or like my grandma, who I had to remind that "negro" is not an appropriate word anymore in the 2000s?  I'd rather error on the side of PC, in this particular case.

For me, the tipping point, as I explained in my previous e-mail, has been first and second hand accounts of people of actual Romani heritage having issues. Yes, some do and some don't - but that's precisely the point I was communicating when I came up with the "redneck" thought experiment. Some wear "redneck" with honor. But definitely, *definitely* "redneck" is also used as a slur to disparage people who are seen as inferior.

Best regards,
Ron

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Tom Hinds <twhinds@earthlink.net> wrote:
When this discussion started I decided to actually use honky instead of gypsy the next time I called.   I would of course explain to the dancers this extremely important and delicate issue that is now confronting the contra dance community.   Why not get a chuckle from the floor?  I appreciate the suggestion of red neck but I think honky flows better.  See the end of this email for calling examples.

Several people have thanked me off list for what I said because they don't want to be seen as insensitive.  Basically we think there's way too much mental effort and concern based on 1 person's complaint.  That I'm actually taking time at all on this topic is a bad reflection on my judgment.

Ron, I really want to know:   since you started dancing have you thought badly of the Romani people because of the use of the word gypsy?  Is there any caller or dancer out there who has thought badly about Romani people because of this call?  

At the time that I wrote my last email, I also wrote the following but decided not to send it because I didn't want to be seen as insensitive.  Here it is.  Maybe you'll get a chuckle.  



As a caller I've often used self-defecating humor to get dancers to relax.  It shows that we callers are human and can make mistakes etc.  It also takes the focus off of them and on to me.

With that said I was thinking that we, the white majority in the US, might consider pointing the finger at ourselves in a joking way.  This  might show minorities that we to can take a joke and perhaps communicate that, in some situations,  it's important not to take things too seriously.

Let's do away with the call gypsy and replace it with honky.  Here are some examples:

"Honky your partner"

or

"Honky 'round your neighbor"

or 

"ladies honky once and a half"

If a Romani person ever complains to you tell them this:  naming a move after an ethnic group is one of the highest honors of our dance community.  The only other people to be so honored are the Dosidoes.

Tom