While I am relatively new to contra, and just called my first dance this weekend, The Baby Rose... I'll have never considered gypsy a term related to a race of people, nor did I know it was applied today to a group of people called Romas.
However, my general position on terms that have both discriminatory and non-discriminatory meanings is that the meaning needs to be derived by context.
Before reading the discussions here, I had only considered the meaning of gypsy as related to wandering dancers... Not a particular ethnic group. Perhaps my view has been naive.
While I am sensitive to cultural issues, until someone comes up with a term that captures not only the physics of the move, but also the flirtatious nature of it, I will probably grimace any time someone uses a different term. Orbit, no handed swing, whatever... Until something emphasizes the flirtatious eye contact it will fall short in my mind. It is more than a figure, it is a figure with an attitude. :)
I am not necessarily arguing for the use of gypsy, but I hope someone comes up with a better term than what I have heard so far.
On Mon, Apr 04, 2016, Michael Fuerst via Callers wrote:
> Ron Blechner:
>>
>> 3. That perhaps the use of "gypsy" as a term isn't as bad as non-Roma
>> self-identitying as "dance gypsies". Roma wander because they are
>> persecuted or can't find work. When we talk about "dance gypsies"
>> beig wandering from place to place, we're comparing our having fun
>> traveling to various dances to the widespread persecution of an
>> ethnicity (the worst being the Holocaust).
>
> Maybe you do. No one else uses such bizarre logic.
You happen to be wrong about that. Any time you're tempted to use
"nobody" or "everyone" when talking about people, you're almost certainly
wrong.
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