Since all these easy dances are fresh on my mind.

I think we don't see many new compositions being written because it's difficult to find ones that aren't like, a simple variation on an existing dance.
There's a longstanding discussion on "what constitutes a new dance", and I'm unsure there's a clear or agreed-upon answer.
I think we all understand that 99% of dances are derivative - it's rare we get a dance that adds a new choreography tool to contra that can be used more than once or twice, yeah?
I do think there's a general consensus that swapping two nearly-equivalent moves doesn't count (swapping the order of 2 zero moves, swapping a right and left through for chain, vice versa, changing a balance and swing to a dosido and swing, etc)
But ... it's unclear how many simple swaps may constitute "new", yeah? 2? 3?
I remember Bob Isaacs taught a general "25% of the dance" as a rough guideline.

I digress.

Yours is:
A1: N B+S
A2: Larks Alle L, PS
B1: LLFB, R+L Thru
B2: Circle L 3/4, Bal, Pass Thru

Wedded Bliss, by Mark Goodwin:
A1: N DSD + S
A2: Larks Alle L, PS
B1: P Prom, LLFB
B2: Circle Left 3/4, Bal, Pass Thru

So, is 3 small transpositions more than a variation of Mark's dance?
Me, personally? Hm, it could go either way.
I personally do not like a promenade into Long Lines, so, I prefer your version.
Pass through to do-si-do is a fun transition, too, and I have a _ton_ A1 N B+S dances in my box.

There's also Lisa Greenleaf's After the Solstice:
A1: N B+S
A2: LLFB, Larks Alle L
B1: P B+S
B2: R+L Thru, Circle L 3/4, Pass Thru

In this case, your dance moves a balance from Partner to Ring, and puts the Partner Swing in the A and the LLFB in the B (and I like a long lines at the top of the B, too)
Another 3-small variations, and in this one, it's all the same moves.
But it's enough different that I'd keep both versions in my box.

I also have Chama River Reel, by Merri Rudd:
A1: N R Shoulder 'Round + Swing
A2: LLFB, Larks Alle L
B1: P B+S
B2: P Prom, Circle L 3/4, Pass Thru

... which is clearly the same as After the Solstice but the entry-to-PS changed and the R+L Thru for Prom swapped.
Which came first? *shrug* I have both in my box, though, even though I put Appetizer and Push the Button on the same card as variations of the same dance.

And then I have my dance I wrote in the Before Pandemic times, which I never really got a chance to publish or call more than once, Turtle Twirl:

A1: N B+S
A2: Pass Thru Across, N Cali Twirl*, Robins Alle R
B1: P B+S
B2: Circle L 3/4, Bal, P Cali Twirl
* (basically a R+L Thru flourish written as a variation)
... which I have marked on my card as a variation of A1 Reel:

A1: 
Circle Left 3/4, Balance, Partner Cal Twirl
A2: New Neighbour Balance & Swing
B1: R&L Thru, Ladies RHT 3/2
B2: Partner Balance & Swing

... I'm laughing at myself, because I realize is two moves different from The Big Hello from my original thread, which I clearly forgot about my older dance, and hasn't gotten to The Caller's Box.

So, I'm likely transcribing this as a variation and noting both dances and authors, lol:
A1: N DSD + S
A2: Larks Alle L, PS
B1: LLFB, R+L Thru
B2: Circle, Bal, Pass Thru

in dance,
Julian


On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 4:17 AM Drew Delaware via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I have been meaning to post this new dance I wrote last month, but hadn't gotten around to it yet. Seems appropriate to contribute it to this discussion as we explore early evening dances and their variations.

Had a fun chat a few weeks ago with Chris Page about how there aren't a lot of easy dances being written, as those of us who enjoy writing dances naturally tend to get more excited by the innovative and elaborate choreography more typically found in the middle of the program. But it's great to have new options emerge for that easy, first dance, when you know you have new dancers on the floor - especially since those dances get a lot of use.

I wanted a first dance of the evening that sent the Larks to the Robin's home side for the partner swing, and I was set on having "balance the ring and pass through" as the progression - all so that it flowed with the rest of my program. Couldn't find a match, so I wrote my own.

‘Git Goin’ - Drew Delaware
A1 - Neighbour Balance & Swing
A2 - Larks Allemande Left 1.5x; Partner Swing
B1 - Long Lines Forward and Back; Right & Left Through
B2 - Circle Left 3 places; Balance the Ring; Pass through to new neighbours

It tested well on the dance floor, so I offer it here in case you're looking for new options for a first dance of the evening. The dance will be added to Caller's Box online in the next update.

Cheers!
Drew

From: Ron Blechner <contraron@gmail.com>
Date: October 22, 2022 at 6:20:04 AM HST
To: Tony Parkes <tony@hands4.com>
Cc: Shared Weight Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>
Subject: [Callers] Re: dance name? - Big Easy variation


I have a couple of Tony's books, but I just checked, and not the one containing Ashoken Hello. I'd be curious the choreo for that.

I've heard a few callers call The Big Easy, and most recently it was Liz Nelson, locally, early in an evening with a gaggle of new dancers, and she prompted it with the allemande Right.

The one on The Caller's Box has it as a Left.

I guess the other issue, which, now that I'm thinking about L vs R in details, is that from Robins role, an alle R puts it at 38-40 beats of clockwise rotation, which 26-28 beats is consecutively. 

Hm.

Changing the alle to a DoSiDo solves that, keeps the timing and keeps it as glossary moves, and flows well from a promade.(alts: pass thru across + twirl, or R+L Thru)

A1: N B+S
A2: N Prom, Robins DSD 1.5x
B1: P B+S
B2: Circle L 3/4, Bal, Cali Twirl

This dance searched brings up Yoyo Zhou's "Larks in the Afternoon"

A1: same
A2: Larks Alle L 1.5x, Robins DSD 1x
B1: same
B2: same

And also is similar to Linda Leslie's Berlin Contra:

A1: same
A2: LLFB, Robins DSD 1.5
B1: same
B2: Bal Ring, 2s Arch, 1s Dive

(Essentially, the Big Easy but Robins DSD. Now I'm curious which dance came first?)

And of course, Diane Silver's Easy Peasy:

A1: same
A2: LLFB, Larks Alle L 1.5
B1: same
B2: Circle, bal, cali.

Adding in a chain and/or a star and dropping the promenade and I have at least a dozen other dances in my box. (Appetizer, Push the Button, Too Hot To Trot, Simplicity Swing, Spend Some Time Together, Harmony Supper Line, Dick & Mary's Departure, Baby Rose, et al)

... but this niche of "simple dance with a courtesy turn, one role doesn't stay mostly in one spot, no star, no chain" is something I know I've looked for programming gigs and left wanting.

I'll leave this thread going as more callers see it and have dances to think of. I may temprarily dub the DSD version "The Big Hello".

-Julian
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