Martha, 

I have been using Right Shoulder Round for months with no issues.  If the prompt is given in time, dancers get it.  Dancers do not confuse R&L Thru with Right Allemande either, if the prompt is given in time.  

In MWSD many calls are preceded by "Left" to change starting hands and it does not confuse the calls.  There is Left Square Thru, Left Swing Thru, Left Touch 1/4, ...  

I am not arguing against Spiral" but simply stating that the predominant cal in southern New England is Right Shoulder Round, and it does seem to work well.

Rich Sbardella
Stafford, CT

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 11:17 PM Martha Wild via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
I hate "right shoulder round". It has the problem of using the term right in it. That makes it easy for people to confuse with a right allemande or a right shoulder do-si-do as you are calling it. Or right and left through. People often hear the first syllable you say to get direction, and that confuses them, especially if you have other moves starting with “right” in them in the dance. Also, the syllables don’t stand out - shoulder has little oomph, round similarly. There’s little way to shorten it as you call, which I like to do to cut down on interrupting the music. It’s a long string of words for one move.  I do not use it. I use “spiral”, which a number of other people also use around here. I just really, really don’t like “right shoulder round”. I’m afraid “walk all around” has similar issues, at least for me - walk is used in other situations, you might have people walking individually around the small or large set, and be shortening that to “walk” - to me, walk could mean anything. Okay, it’s not always a perfect spiral, because you don’t always swing afterwards, but it has the virtue of people knowing what they are supposed to do immediately.
Martha


> On Oct 9, 2019, at 7:12 AM, Bob Hofkin via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
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> "Walk all around" [the left-hand lady] has been the MWSD terminology, and it seems adequate to me. Why create new terminology?
>
> Bob
>
> On 10/9/2019 9:56, Adam Carlson via Callers wrote:
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>> BTW, I'm really saddened that the term "right shoulder round" has become
>> the standard replacement for gypsy. It's about as evocative as "modified
>> ballroom position paired rotation" is for swing and takes too long to say.
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