Folks,

I began this discussion as a simple question with no intention of creating a debate on gender terms.  I simply wanted to know if the lyrics ,in the context of a traditional song, were going to cause offense to any contra dancers.  I think I had my answer early on.

If we choose to continue this conversation let's do it with respect for each other, but I believe conversations like this are best held in face to face round tables.  Emails make it hard to feel the emotion of the writer, and to see that writer as a person, who too, deserves much respect.

Without pontificating, I do want to say, in my few short years in the contra community, ALL the callers I have met have treated the dancers, and each other, with great respect.  We have a lot more in common than we have as differences.  We must remember traditions within dance communities vary.  Our way is just one way. 

Now, as a caller who often calls singing squares, I find that changing the words of a popular song, changes the way dancers respond to that square  They expect certain words and changing them leaves many feeling cheated or disappointed.  Try changing the song Marianne to say "All day, all night, my Caroline" and you will know what I mean.  IMHO, it is better not to use a song than to change the tag line significantly.  (In MWSD the tag line is the lyric that is sung during the 16 step promenades, and it is most often the most common, or repeated lyric in the song.) 

Thanks for all your thoughtful responses.

Rich
Stafford, CT
  




On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Dorcas Hand via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Louise has hit the nail on the head: "I’d love everyone to dance for the pure joy of it, but the idea that we can get “back” to that place, rather than move forward to it, is a myth." Me too (yup), and there is no easy path to get there. We must keep talking - just like in the broader world of politics. Talking does/can get frustrating and circular, but it also opens minds and keeps people thinking about how to be together better.

Meanwhile, together let's forge a path - maybe of many sortof parallel lanes - to move forward to dancing in joy.
Dorcas Hand
Houston

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From: Callers <callers-bounces@lists.sharedweight.net> On Behalf Of Louise Siddons via Callers
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 10:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Politically Correct?

I have a friend who danced for the pure joy of it until he got sick of being asked why a black man wanted to contra dance. I dance with more, purer joy now that fewer men “offer” to split me up from my girlfriend when we join a line together.

I’d love everyone to dance for the pure joy of it, but the idea that we can get “back” to that place, rather than move forward to it, is a myth.

Louise.
www.scissortail.org

> On Mar 28, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Jeffrey Spero via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Can we just get back to dancing for the pure joy of it?
>
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