I think that previous posters have made good points but I am offended by the idea that "outsiders" can't be sensitive. Doesn't it make sense that the majority, educated, should be the driving force behind "no ethnicity slurred" and not leave it in our culture especially in a community that espouses joy and unity and shared weight, literally?
Julia


From: Callers <callers-bounces@lists.sharedweight.net> on behalf of Jeffrey Spero via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 10:56 AM
To: Isaac Banner <ibanner56@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] [Organizers] contra dance gypsy
 
I apologize.  But my point remains that ALMOST everyone who is debating this point is an outsider.

On Oct 8, 2019, at 6:16 AM, Isaac Banner <ibanner56@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Jeff,

Not **us** non-roma folk, thank you. My family on my mother's side were a part of the culture and none of us appreciate the folks telling us not to worry and that we don't need to be offended.

Isaav

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 8:10 AM Jeffrey Spero via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
But Isaac… isn’t that what people on BOTH sides of the issue are doing? There are VERY few Roma in the contra community, and we’ve heard from very few overall on this issue.  Mostly it’s just us non-Roma folk arguing amongst ourselves about what WE perceive how a majority of the Roma people feel about this.  And that does apply to people who are both for and against using the term “gypsy” to describe a contradance move.  Aren’t we ALL saying what is right or wrong for people who are from another heritage?

And now I am bowing out of this controversy as it seems never-ending and very divisive.

Jeff



> On Oct 8, 2019, at 5:57 AM, Isaac Banner via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> Hey John,
>
> If the N word was also a move that somehow wasn't connected to the slur, you wouldn't dare argue that it's different or that you should get to call it, so drop the argument please. Just because you don't think I should be offended about the word and how it reflects on my heritage doesn't mean you get to dictate whether I actually am. I would ask you not to decide for others how they ought to experience and respect their racial identity, thanks.
>
> Isaac
>

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