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Today's Topics:

   1. Giant dance database? (Maia McCormick via Callers)
   2. Re: Giant dance database? (Jeff Kaufman via Callers)
   3. Re: Giant dance database? (Aaron Redfern via Callers)
   4. Re: Giant dance database? (Chris Page via Callers)
   5. Re: Giant dance database? (Dave C via Callers)
   6. Re: Giant dance database? (Luke Donforth via Callers)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:46:22 -0400
From: Maia McCormick via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers@sharedweight.net>
Subject: [Callers] Giant dance database?
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Hi all,

I'm currently in programming school casting about for programming projects,
and I had the idea of a giant searchable contradance database, where you
can filter by move combination, etc.

My question: is this something people would be interested in having? Or
does it run the risk of infringing on intellectual property, or
shortchanging dance writers on book sales, etc.? (Obviously no dances would
be included without the author's permission, but it may be that making a
huge ton of dances freely available and searchable in one place online
would be a death blow to published books of dances, or have some other
negative effect I'm not foreseeing right now...)

Anyway: does anyone have any thoughts on this project?

Cheers,
Maia
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:19:53 -0400
From: Jeff Kaufman via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
To: Maia McCormick <maia.mcc@gmail.com>
Cc: Caller's discussion list <callers@sharedweight.net>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Giant dance database?
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I think this is a great idea, and the main non-technical limitation is
writing to lots of callers to get their permission to include their
dances.  Several people have proposed something similar, but the
actual work of checking with lots of callers has been too daunting.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers
<callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm currently in programming school casting about for programming projects,
> and I had the idea of a giant searchable contradance database, where you can
> filter by move combination, etc.
>
> My question: is this something people would be interested in having? Or does
> it run the risk of infringing on intellectual property, or shortchanging
> dance writers on book sales, etc.? (Obviously no dances would be included
> without the author's permission, but it may be that making a huge ton of
> dances freely available and searchable in one place online would be a death
> blow to published books of dances, or have some other negative effect I'm
> not foreseeing right now...)
>
> Anyway: does anyone have any thoughts on this project?
>
> Cheers,
> Maia
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:54:14 -0400
From: Aaron Redfern via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
To: Maia McCormick <maia.mcc@gmail.com>
Cc: Caller's discussion list <callers@sharedweight.net>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Giant dance database?
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My guess is a lot of people who write dances would be happy to contribute,
but trying to wrangle all the callers and dances does seem pretty daunting.

Presumably older dances are in the public domain, either by clearly defined
intellectual property laws or implicitly via the folk process.  What if you
started out by adding a ton of chestnuts and other older dances, and then
when you had enough to show, you could open it up for people to contribute
their newer dances directly?


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm currently in programming school casting about for programming
> projects, and I had the idea of a giant searchable contradance database,
> where you can filter by move combination, etc.
>
> My question: is this something people would be interested in having? Or
> does it run the risk of infringing on intellectual property, or
> shortchanging dance writers on book sales, etc.? (Obviously no dances would
> be included without the author's permission, but it may be that making a
> huge ton of dances freely available and searchable in one place online
> would be a death blow to published books of dances, or have some other
> negative effect I'm not foreseeing right now...)
>
> Anyway: does anyone have any thoughts on this project?
>
> Cheers,
> Maia
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:11:05 -0700
From: Chris Page via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
To: Maia McCormick <maia.mcc@gmail.com>
Cc: Caller's discussion list <callers@sharedweight.net>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Giant dance database?
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During the recent caller's survey, I think a database of dances was at
the top of the list of what online resource callers wanted.

There have been several attempts at creating a dance database over the
past decade-plus. They have all fizzled out, primarily for lack of
volunteers with sufficient drive, free time, and coding experience to
create such a beast.

(Data entry and getting permissions requires less technical skill, and
can be farmed out amongst a larger committee.)

-Chris Page
San Diego

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers
<callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm currently in programming school casting about for programming projects,
> and I had the idea of a giant searchable contradance database, where you can
> filter by move combination, etc.
>
> My question: is this something people would be interested in having? Or does
> it run the risk of infringing on intellectual property, or shortchanging
> dance writers on book sales, etc.? (Obviously no dances would be included
> without the author's permission, but it may be that making a huge ton of
> dances freely available and searchable in one place online would be a death
> blow to published books of dances, or have some other negative effect I'm
> not foreseeing right now...)
>
> Anyway: does anyone have any thoughts on this project?
>
> Cheers,
> Maia
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:27:41 -0700
From: Dave C via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
To: Maia McCormick <maia.mcc@gmail.com>, Chris Page
        <chriscpage@gmail.com>
Cc: Caller's discussion list <callers@sharedweight.net>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Giant dance database?
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I am curious.  I got Chris' reply email in my inbox today stamped at 1:11 pm, but I never received the initial email from Maia that was sent at 7:46 this morning.  I have noticed this on other occassions as well.  Is anyone else getting reply messages but not the initial message???  Can a mod please address this?  Thanks,

Dave Colestock

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On Mon, 7/28/14, Chris Page via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Callers] Giant dance database?
 To: "Maia McCormick" <maia.mcc@gmail.com>
 Cc: "Caller's discussion list" <callers@sharedweight.net>
 Date: Monday, July 28, 2014, 1:11 PM

 During the recent caller's survey, I
 think a database of dances was at
 the top of the list of what online resource callers wanted.

 There have been several attempts at creating a dance
 database over the
 past decade-plus. They have all fizzled out, primarily for
 lack of
 volunteers with sufficient drive, free time, and coding
 experience to
 create such a beast.

 (Data entry and getting permissions requires less technical
 skill, and
 can be farmed out amongst a larger committee.)

 -Chris Page
 San Diego

 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers
 <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
 wrote:
 > Hi all,
 >
 > I'm currently in programming school casting about for
 programming projects,
 > and I had the idea of a giant searchable contradance
 database, where you can
 > filter by move combination, etc.
 >
 > My question: is this something people would be
 interested in having? Or does
 > it run the risk of infringing on intellectual property,
 or shortchanging
 > dance writers on book sales, etc.? (Obviously no dances
 would be included
 > without the author's permission, but it may be that
 making a huge ton of
 > dances freely available and searchable in one place
 online would be a death
 > blow to published books of dances, or have some other
 negative effect I'm
 > not foreseeing right now...)
 >
 > Anyway: does anyone have any thoughts on this project?
 >
 > Cheers,
 > Maia
 >
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:30:43 -0400
From: Luke Donforth via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
To: Maia McCormick <maia.mcc@gmail.com>
Cc: Caller's discussion list <callers@sharedweight.net>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Giant dance database?
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Last I heard, Nils Fredland was the person at CDSS associated with the
project.

There are non-online versions that allow searching in various ways. You
might take a look at Caller's Companion http://callerscompanion.com to see
something already out there.
On Jul 28, 2014 10:46 AM, "Maia McCormick via Callers" <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm currently in programming school casting about for programming
> projects, and I had the idea of a giant searchable contradance database,
> where you can filter by move combination, etc.
>
> My question: is this something people would be interested in having? Or
> does it run the risk of infringing on intellectual property, or
> shortchanging dance writers on book sales, etc.? (Obviously no dances would
> be included without the author's permission, but it may be that making a
> huge ton of dances freely available and searchable in one place online
> would be a death blow to published books of dances, or have some other
> negative effect I'm not foreseeing right now...)
>
> Anyway: does anyone have any thoughts on this project?
>
> Cheers,
> Maia
>
> _______________________________________________
> Callers mailing list
> Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net
>
>
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