[Organizers] Non-clique members in sensitive board positions.

Tue Apr 26 19:11:06 PDT 2016

Reading this, it's hard for me to tell what's the issue. Are you worried
that a general election isn't a good way to determine qualifications for
treasurer? That the existing treasurer will lose and feel hurt? That the
new person is annoying?
On 26 Apr 2016 9:52 p.m., "Jeff Raymond via Organizers" <
organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> I think that Joe's point is that the position open is that of treasurer.
> I've been in membership organizations that had a year wait. But in
> community groups things are moire inclusive but anyone claiming finance
> creds has got to have a track record.
> On Apr 26, 2016 7:00 PM, "Claire Baffaut via Organizers" <
> organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> Unless I am missing something, your situation is not something to avoid.
>> It is something to be grateful for. You must be doing something right to
>> have people volunteer for this position without twisting any arm. The
>> treasurer position is very important, yet it requires diligence and
>> understanding of what is required. The work is behind the scene and has few
>> rewards.
>>
>> I have heard (and seen) of more organizations going under because of
>> books being cooked than I ever thought was possible. It happens more often
>> than we would want too, sometimes because the person is in denial of what
>> the numbers are saying, sometimes because the situation is too tempting to
>> resist.
>>
>> The best prevention is to have several pairs of eyes on the books and
>> have frequent changes of treasurers so that no one is too comfortable. It
>> seems that you are in an ideal situation for either one of those. You could
>> ask that person to review the books, or you could ask her to take over the
>> position, or you could ask her to shadow the current treasurer and learn
>> the ways it is done in your organization before she moves into the
>> position. What I am saying is that there are many ways for you to use the
>> talent in a way that benefits your organization, in the short and long run.
>>
>> Claire (Columbia, MO)
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 5:45 PM, David Kirchner via Organizers <
>> organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I guess I don't see the problem here. Someone wants to volunteer to help
>>> the organization. Yay!
>>>
>>> So the person hasn't danced much. So what? There are other people who do
>>> dance on the board, right? It's not like this person is going to initiate
>>> something that would hurt the dance and manage to carry the day against a
>>> bunch of dancing board members who would know better.
>>>
>>> If the problem is that this person would be bad for the board for other
>>> reasons (unrelated to the lack of dance experience), then you should
>>> address that the same way you would address it if a regular dancer who
>>> wouldn't be a good choice asked to join the board.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Jeff Raymond via Organizers <
>>> organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is amazing how helpful new converts I mean dancers are and to ignore
>>>> qualified personnel because they are not yet fully vetted could mean
>>>> missing out on some good talent.
>>>> Qualifications and references are in order.
>>>> IMHO
>>>> Be well, Jeff
>>>> On Apr 26, 2016 5:16 PM, "via Organizers" <
>>>> organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The situation is unclear to me. Is this person unqualified in some way?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Apr 26, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Joe Kwiatkowski via Organizers <
>>>>> organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It's annual election time, and a new dancer is answering the call to
>>>>> help the organization.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The individual in question is someone known to a Board member and
>>>>> has "has served with other groups as funds manager/ treasurer type
>>>>> positions".  Using her talents, she has volunteered to lend them to the
>>>>> organization as Treasurer.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This has sparked a battle among (1) we need to amend the by-laws so
>>>>> this can't happen, (2) we need to mentor new people into leadership, (3) we
>>>>> need to just vote at the general election and see what happens.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > A supporter of (1) claims that "that's what other clubs do".
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So without asking for the entire contra nation to take sides, let me
>>>>> ask you organizers: what would your club do/what does your club do to
>>>>> contend with or avoid situations such as this?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Joe Kwiatkowski
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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