[Organizers] Non-clique members in sensitive board positions.

[Jeff Raymond via Organizers]

I think that Joe's point is that the position open is that of treasurer.
I've been in membership organizations that had a year wait. But in
community groups things are moire inclusive but anyone claiming finance
creds has got to have a track record.
On Apr 26, 2016 7:00 PM, "Claire Baffaut via Organizers" <
organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Joe,
>
> Unless I am missing something, your situation is not something to avoid.
> It is something to be grateful for. You must be doing something right to
> have people volunteer for this position without twisting any arm. The
> treasurer position is very important, yet it requires diligence and
> understanding of what is required. The work is behind the scene and has few
> rewards.
>
> I have heard (and seen) of more organizations going under because of books
> being cooked than I ever thought was possible. It happens more often than
> we would want too, sometimes because the person is in denial of what the
> numbers are saying, sometimes because the situation is too tempting to
> resist.
>
> The best prevention is to have several pairs of eyes on the books and have
> frequent changes of treasurers so that no one is too comfortable. It seems
> that you are in an ideal situation for either one of those. You could ask
> that person to review the books, or you could ask her to take over the
> position, or you could ask her to shadow the current treasurer and learn
> the ways it is done in your organization before she moves into the
> position. What I am saying is that there are many ways for you to use the
> talent in a way that benefits your organization, in the short and long run.
>
> Claire (Columbia, MO)
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 5:45 PM, David Kirchner via Organizers <
> organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> I guess I don't see the problem here. Someone wants to volunteer to help
>> the organization. Yay!
>>
>> So the person hasn't danced much. So what? There are other people who do
>> dance on the board, right? It's not like this person is going to initiate
>> something that would hurt the dance and manage to carry the day against a
>> bunch of dancing board members who would know better.
>>
>> If the problem is that this person would be bad for the board for other
>> reasons (unrelated to the lack of dance experience), then you should
>> address that the same way you would address it if a regular dancer who
>> wouldn't be a good choice asked to join the board.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Jeff Raymond via Organizers <
>> organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It is amazing how helpful new converts I mean dancers are and to ignore
>>> qualified personnel because they are not yet fully vetted could mean
>>> missing out on some good talent.
>>> Qualifications and references are in order.
>>> IMHO
>>> Be well, Jeff
>>> On Apr 26, 2016 5:16 PM, "via Organizers" <
>>> organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The situation is unclear to me. Is this person unqualified in some way?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On Apr 26, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Joe Kwiatkowski via Organizers <
>>>> organizers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > It's annual election time, and a new dancer is answering the call to
>>>> help the organization.
>>>> >
>>>> > The individual in question is someone known to a Board member and has
>>>> "has served with other groups as funds manager/ treasurer type positions".
>>>> Using her talents, she has volunteered to lend them to the organization as
>>>> Treasurer.
>>>> >
>>>> > This has sparked a battle among (1) we need to amend the by-laws so
>>>> this can't happen, (2) we need to mentor new people into leadership, (3) we
>>>> need to just vote at the general election and see what happens.
>>>> >
>>>> > A supporter of (1) claims that "that's what other clubs do".
>>>> >
>>>> > So without asking for the entire contra nation to take sides, let me
>>>> ask you organizers: what would your club do/what does your club do to
>>>> contend with or avoid situations such as this?
>>>> >
>>>> > Joe Kwiatkowski
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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