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I generally call the move "two-eye turn". This seems to work just
fine, and it captures the choreographic essence of the movement --
the walk around each other with a looking contact. <br>
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IMO, right-shoulder round and left-shoulder round are like the
square-dance move "weave the line" around one person. Nothing about
eye-contact or even looking at each other. I don't like those terms.<br>
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Of course, when I teach the two-eye turn in pre-dance lessons, I
always advise that it's just looking at each other, that you don't
need to stare or even look at eyes, that you can choose to read the
T-shirt or look at a forehead or anything you feel comfortable with.
And I like your idea of including the concept of playfulness or
whimsy (concepts that are sometimes missing on the dance floor.)<br>
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(Thinking about this move -- it's actually a four-eye turn, but that
gets weird.)<br>
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Woody Lane<br>
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<div dir="auto">I'm experimenting with teaching this move as a
right shoulder 'round, but describing it as friendly/playful. I
will try subbing one of those words for RSR. I think it gets the
idea of a face-to-face move without the flirty/slur. I know, I
know, there are tons of suggestions out there. None of them that
I've heard get the attitude across, and suggest face-to-face
without actually calling it FTF, or "eyeballs" or something, or
without sounding almost exactly like the G word. I know many
people are uncomfortable with eye contact, but the interaction
has been missing when I call it RSR, and I hear folks being
wistful for that. I think a "playful" might bring the spark
back, eliminate confused do-si-doing, and be rather fun.
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">We
should avoid the term “gypsy” in all ways, in my opinion,
not just as an official dance call. In some areas of the
world it is a racial slur akin to the N word. It has been
reclaimed by some Roma in the same way some lesbians have
reclaimed “dyke” but when a term is reclaimed, it can still
only be used by a member of the group. I can call myself a
dyke but you cannot, and a black person can use the N word
but I, as a white person, cannot. Since we are not all Roma
we need to avoid the term gypsy in the same ways we would
avoid other racial/ethnic/other slurs. I miss the term,
myself. There was a flirty quality to “gypsy” that “right
shoulder round” simply cannot connote. But if there were a
traditional term that used “dyke” in it, I would object, and
I need to show the same respect to other groups. So when I
call this weekend, it will be “right shoulder round”, tho in
the walk-thru I’ll also say something like, “don’t forget to
make a little joking-pretend-flirty eye contact as you go
around! That’s the fun of it!”
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<div dir="ltr">only slightly related question:
Why is it offensive to call a dance figure a
gypsy but not offensive to be a dance gypsy?</div>
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