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<p>While I must admit that of all the gender neutral terms that I've
seen passed around I prefer larks and ravens. First choice is
still men and ladies but it is mostly up to the community. Now
comes larks or robins for some reasonable concerns. What do we do
if we are to use robins and call a dance with a 'mad' robin? Not
that it might be confusing for the dancer in the robin roll but
are we not now describing the person in the robin roll as an angry
dancer? I'm sure someone will consider it some type of derogatory
reflection. It seems as though whatever terms one might use,
someone will be offended. At sometime we must realize that the
terms we use are not used to degrade or humiliate anyone and that
reasonable people can come to reasonable solutions if they choose
to.</p>
<p> Karl <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/2/19 7:06 PM, John Sweeney via
Callers wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I wish
people who document dances on the forum would not write
things like “ladies’/robins’ chain”. We all know what you
mean if you say either “ladies’ chain” or “robins’ chain”.
You don’t need to say both. Trying to parse a dance with
extra words scattered throughout it can be very confusing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As a
member of the AAAA (Association for the Abolition of the
Aberrant Apostrophe) I always appreciate a “Ladies’ Chain”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I also
use Men and Ladies almost exclusively since I find those to
be the clearest words to use over a PA. If I do need to use
other words occasionally for a specific community, then I am
unlikely to use “Larks” as it is too much like “Ladies” but
means the person in the traditional Man’s role!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Happy dancing, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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John <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">John
Sweeney, Dancer, England <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:john@modernjive.com">john@modernjive.com</a> 01233 625
362 & 07802 940 574 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://contrafusion.co.uk/KentCeilidhs.html">http://contrafusion.co.uk/KentCeilidhs.html</a>
for Live Music Ceilidhs <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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for Dancing in Kent</span><span style="color:windowtext">
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