<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I just wanted to report in that I used “look-see” today with a group of K-8 elementary students and I thought it worked fabulously! They really understood the point of the move much better than the random g-word, and it was so cute to watch them intently and playfully gazing at each other as they went around. One of the band members particularly called out that she noticed my new language and thought it was brilliant and a big improvement. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Obviously this is a group with little to no prior associations or names for the move, so no baggage. It was just a great name that worked, at least with that younger crowd and their parents/teachers.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I mentioned the problem to the band that someone on this list raised about not offending blind dancers with words referring to eyes and seeing, but they pointed out that we say “right hand turn” which would be equally unfair to a dancer missing an arm, and they felt that wasn’t a reason not to use it, as there are many ways of “seeing”.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 16, 2018, at 1:00 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers <<a href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net" class="">callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">I also use "face-to-face", which I learned from Eric. I've heard Steve Z-A and Lisa G switch to these terms, at least where I've heard them call.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I also use "right shoulder round" when it's a multi-caller event and that's what people like. We agreed to this for Flurry Festival last month, and it worked well all weekend with thousands of dancers.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I want to also echo that anything that sounds too much like g*psy is going to rub at least some people the wrong way. I also thought jets/rubies was a winner, and I've acknowledged that too many people think jet is a problem.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">In dance,</div><div dir="auto" class="">Ron Blechner<br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Thu, Mar 15, 2018, 12:00 AM Eric Black via Callers <<a href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net" class="">callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">I’m still bemused and befuddled that not so many years ago, this dance move was decried because of perceived forced invasion of personal space. People did not want to be told that they had to make eye contact when they were not comfortable with it, that they did not like being told to flirt with people they did not choose. Some of us callers told dancers that the eye contact was optional, that the essential part of the move was that it was a face-to-face do-si-do, no spins or twirls, just moving around each other.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Now the argument against the name of the move has completely lost all ground on that front.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For some years I’ve used “face-to-face”, teaching it with the memorable description “imagine a short gold chain joining the rings in your noses”. Eye contact is optional, and not directed; dancers will or will not make eye contact as they choose. In private communication with a young caller who is very vocal in various discussion fora I said there was no need to attribute the term to me. Maybe I should have insisted.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’ve tried “right [left] shoulder round” with favorable reception. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">ANYway, if we’ve been making progress in removing real or perceived invasions of personal space, and gender issues, why regress in order to change the name of a dance move to make progress in removing real or perceived ethnic slurs?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And no, “spiral” is out of the question. It’s a different move that includes changing the distance between the dancers, whereas the move under discussion does not. English dancers know the difference.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;" class="">Eric Black</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:eric@eric-black.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">eric@eric-black.com</a></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">
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