<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div>I don't recall anyone saying 'whirl her around'. That would imply the gent is not moving - which is not the case. I usually just say 'butterfly whirl'. When I teach, I occasionally show the problem if they let the ladies role do all the traveling.</div><div><br></div><div>Mac<br></div>
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On Wednesday, November 22, 2017, 2:44:55 PM CST, Ron Blechner <contraron@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydpa22efc71yiv3971676537"><div><div>Addendum:<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Often accompanied by "... And whirl/reel her around" (again, both butterfly whirl / courtesy turn / a few other moves).</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>(Thanks for helping me clarify!)</div></div><div class="ydpa22efc71yiv3971676537yqt4131608400" id="ydpa22efc71yiv3971676537yqt02693"><div class="ydpa22efc71yiv3971676537gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="ydpa22efc71yiv3971676537gmail_quote">On Nov 22, 2017 3:21 PM, "Mac Mckeever" <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:macmck@ymail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">macmck@ymail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="ydpa22efc71yiv3971676537gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div>I have always considered that terminology to refer to picking up someone as you would a hitchhiker, not physically lifting someone. I don't see it as having anything to do with who is doing what work.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Mac McKeever<br clear="none"></div>
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On Wednesday, November 22, 2017, 2:15:38 PM CST, Ron Blechner via Callers <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">callers@lists.sharedweight. net</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydpa22efc71yiv3971676537m_2326131286238138161ydpa1aa3321yiv1036701903"><div>A quick question:<div><br clear="none"></div><div>How many callers believe that one role does the majority of the work in a courtesy turn or a butterfly whirl? If so, can you explain how the shared weight that differs from an allemande?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I've always been taught about shared weight being essential in all contra moves, and I guess I'm still surprised when I hear callers prompt "pick her up and take her to the other side" as if the person in lady/raven role is not giving any weight. (Or similar one-role-biased prompting.)</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ron Blechner</div></div></div>______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">List Name: Callers mailing list<br clear="none">List Address: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:Callers@lists.sharedweight.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a><br clear="none">Archives: <a shape="rect" href="https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.mail-archive.com/ callers@lists.sharedweight. net/</a><br clear="none"></div>
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